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These are all the Blogs posted on Thursday, 13, 2012.
Thursday, 13 September 2012
Melbourne, Australia: Muslim Man Arrested By AFP On Suspicion of Fomenting Jihad

We'll start with the 'skynews' version of events, and then fill in the picture from a few other sources.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=794300

'Vic man arrested in terror raids'

'A police raid on 11 properties (eleven! - CM) in Melbourne's south-east has resulted in a 23 year old man being arrested in connection with terrorism offences.

'The operation began at 6 am (AEST) at Springvale's Al-Furqan Islamic Information Centre (that is, they do da'wa - CM) - described as being part of the political fringe of the city's Muslim community (but just how 'fringe' is it, really?  they're always 'fringe' when they're caught hatching mass-murder - CM) and ended with a 23 year old from suburban Officer in custody.

'He was expected to be charged with collecting or making documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts, which carries a maximum penalty of 15 years' jail.

'People wanted to assure the public there was no immediate threat to the community's safety.

'They seized a number of items including a USB memory stick containing violent extremist materials, computer equipment, imitation firearms and a number of registered firearms, a joint statement from the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and Victoria Police said.

'Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner for Crime Steve Fontana said the joint investigation was ongoing.

"I would like to reassure people that we have not identified any immediate threats that pose immediate concerns to the safety of the community and we will continue to work to ensure that all steps are taken to protect all members of the community", Mr Fontana said.

'A spokesman for the Al-Furqan centre, who did not want to be identified, said police arrived at 6 am and stayed until about 6 pm.

'They wouldn't allow anyone inside, they just cordoned it off', the man told AFP.  'They took a few things and gave us a receipt'.

'Everyone has been taken aback but you always have the feeling that these things can happen.

Sounds like he was kinda expecting a visit from the police...I wonder why?  Something to hide? - CM

'Muslims live here and they are checking things in the neighbourhood'.

Yes, and very sensible of the police to do so, because jihad terror plots seem to bubble up from Mohammedan neighbourhoods with dismal and predictable regularity.  - CM

'The Al-Furqan centre also engages in religious instruction and conducts lectures on Islam.

'Its website carries videos of Islamist militia (that is, Sunni Muslim jihadists - CM) fighting in the Arab world, such as the uprising in Syria, separatists in Mali (that is, the zealous sharia-pushers in Mali, the hand-choppers and floggers - CM) and reports of the Taliban infiltrating the Afghan army.

Hmmm. Did the reporter who did due diligence by visiting the website, come across any gleeful gloating over the 'insider attacks' that have been killing Aussie and American soldiers of late? - CM

'Police briefed representatives of Melbourne's Islamic community on Wednesday afternoon about the raids which were carried out at Narre Warren South, Craigieburn, Hallam, Officer, Springvale South and Noble Park.

It appears that the 'briefing' took place after the raids were well under way.  I certainly hope so, or the police won't have found anything much. But I would like to know why a 'briefing' was thought necessary, at all. - CM

'Somewhat ironically, the operation fell a day after the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

'Islamic Council of Victoria president Ramzi el Sayed said Al-Furqan was part of the local Muslim political fringe and its leader, Sheik Haron, was not a member of the mainstream Muslim society.

Suuuure.  Somehow they never are, when this kind of thing is exposed to the view of the kuffar.  Damage Control. - CM

'The AFP's acting counter terrorism national manager Justine Saunders described the arrest as a positive outcome.  "The AFP is committed to working with state and territory police and the community in order to counter the ongoing and enduring threat of terrorism (in order to try to thwart the more obvious and spectacular attempts at Fast Jihad...- CM) and ensure the safety and security of the community", she said.

But if we didn't have any Musiims living in Australia we wouldn't have to worry about this kind of thing at all and could concentrate our efforts on dealing with common or garden crime...The Ummah, or Mohammmedan mob, is the nurturing sea within which the jihadists swim and from which, ceaselessly, they emerge.  So long as we have a Muslim 'community' in Australia, we will have jihad incitement and we will have jihad plots and sooner or later one of those plots will succeed, and kill a lot of people. - CM

'Mr El Sayed commended the police for consulting with the Islamic community as events unfolded.

Why should they?  Very silly of them to have done so.  In this sort of investigation, I would have thought that the element of surprise would be paramount. - CM

"They carried out the raids showing a lot of respect, including telling the women at some of the houses that they were coming in and for them to put on their headgear and scarves", he told AAP on Wednesday night...

Oh, dear.  And I suppose the police did not search those magic headcoverings?  Think of how many potentially incriminating USBs and other items of that sort could be tucked inside the Slave Hoods and spirited away right under the noses of the police. And I guess our police cannot possibly use the Dog Squad when engaged in a search of Mohammedan premises?

Our next item is from the ABC, and it tells us that the young Muslim man who was arrested has been taken off to hospital complaning of 'stomach pains'.  What a coincidence.  Poor little persecuted petal...- CM

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-12/man-arrested-in-counter-terrorist-raids-in-melbourne/4257968

'Suspect taken to hospital after anti-terror raids'.

'A man arrested yesterday during a series of counter-terrorism raids in Melbourne has been taken to hospital.

'The 23 year old man from Officer is receiving medical treatment after complaining of abdominal pain.

'He is expected to be charge with collecting or making documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts, after officers with the joint counter-terrorism team searched properties in Narre Warren South, Craigieburn, Hallam, Officer, Springvale South and Noble Park yesterday...

'Australian Federal Police acting national manager of counter-terrorism Justine Saunders described the arrest as a positive outcome.  "The result of today's operation demonstrates the importance of operations undertaken by Australia's joint counter-terrorism teams, and as an example of proactive law enforcement action to prevent terrorist activity in Australia", she said.

"The Islamic Council of Victoria says the raids were linked to the Al-Furqan centre at Springvale.

And will the Al-Furqan centre now be shut down? Or will it be allowed to go on its merry way? - CM

'The Council's Sherene Hassan has told AM the centre is a fringe group that does not represent the wider Islamic community.

After the latest lot of arrests, they always, always say that. - CM

"We are very concerned that there may be individuals involved in a terrorist plot" she said.

Suuure.  This sort of jumping-the-gun upsets and alarms the kuffar and exposes to them what Islam is really all about, just when the Slow Jihad of demographic swamping and Sharia Creep was going so swimmingly. - CM

"The last thing we want is any kind of terrorist attack anywhere in the world, let alone in Australia, and it's very reassuring that the authorities are being very vigilant in keeping our community safe".

Damage Control. 

And now to Cameron Stewart of The Australian, for a fuller description of this entirely unnecessary and embarrassingly anxiously propitiatory 'briefing' that the police conducted with the local Ummah...even while the searches were still happening. 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/one-arrest-after-melbourne-counter-terror-raids/story-e6frg6nf-1226472903538

Here it is:

'Islamic Council of Victoria (ICV) President Ramzi Elsayed told The Australian he had been personally briefed about the raids.

"This briefing was an anticipatory action.  In the past they have briefed us after the event", he said.

And that's what they should have done this time, too.  I bet all the really interesting stuff was well hidden by the time the last lot of searches were executed. - CM

"There was a strategy to engage community members.

"We were briefed at 3.30 pm today.  Steve Fontana and Assistant Commissioner Tim Cartwright chaired a meeting with Muslim community leaders.  The searches were still ongoing when we were briefed.

"They told us that Al Furqan centre in Springvale was the centre of the raids.

And if ten other premises were searched -  mostly large private homes - just how 'fringe' is it? - CM

"We were concerned about them and the material on their website.  We felt that the tone the manner and the language of what they were posting was not appropriate in certain circumstances."

But you would deem it appropriate, in other circumstances? I would be interested to know what the appropriate circumstances might be.  Once the Muslim presence is a lot larger and more powerful, perhaps, and can dispense with the smiling mask of taqiyya?  And a further question for Mr El Sayed: was it a Muslim or Muslims who brought Al Furqan and their plotter/s to the attention of the AFP?  Or did the AFP and Victoria Police have to find things out by themselves or on information from worried non-Muslims who had taken a peek at the shop, and / or its website? - CM

'Mr El Sayed said the Al Furqan centre in Springvale was a 'marginalised' organisation that was not a member of his peak body...'.

So he says.  But the sorts of things that emerge from my final item, Mark Buttler and Chris Gillett's report from the Herald Sun, suggests that quite a lot of Muslims have had to do with Al Furqan, along the way. - CM

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/afp-raid-melbourne-properties/story-e6frf7kx-1226472897480

''Neighbours speak of shock as guns, computers, violent extremist materials seized in terror raids'.

'UPDATE: Neighbours affected by the series of terror raids across Melbourne yesterday have spoken about their shock and fear about living so close to police targets.

'Anti-terror police seized guns and a computer memory stick allegedly containing extremist material in a series of co-ordinated raids on 11 properties across the suburbs.  AFP officers continued their operations today at a property in Narre Warren South.

'A man (that is, a young Muslim man - CM), 23, from Officer in Melbourne's south-east, is expected to be charge with collecting or making documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts...

'A woman who lives in the same street as the arrested man said she believed he lived there with his wife, his brother and his sister-in-law.

'Trish Bourke said undercover police cars were at the property in Officer when she left for work at 7.30 am yesterday.

'"The family have lived there about one and a half to two years", she said.  "The women wore the full hijab and both men had beards.

In other words: devout sharia-compliant Mohammedans. - CM

"I said hello to them if I saw them and they would say hello back but that's about it.  We didn't have conversations.  They were not that friendly".

Of course they weren't.  Note that she greeted them, not they her.  Muslims are not supposed to greet the kuffar first; the inferior (the kuffar) must initiate a greeting.  And Muslims are not supposed to befriend the najis kuffar (the filthy Infidel); the Quran makes that very plain in multiple passages. - CM

'Another neighbour believed the younger brother was arrested.

"The older one, and possibly both, were working in insulation", he said.

With endless opportunities small and great for sabotage and the doing of harm.  -  CM

'Another neighbour, who did not want to be named (I wonder why? - CM) said the double-storey modern brick property had been up for sale for a few weeks.

Now that is interesting. - CM

"They were pretty quiet and were always covered up when I saw the women", she said.  "They didn't have any children.  They were not unpleasant, but I'm just shocked".

I would not have been shocked or surprised to discover that a bunch of stand-offish Mohammedans with women in full Islamic garb and men sporting big beards had a jihad inciter amongst them. - CM

'Another said police were at the home "from dawn to about 3 pm".  "I have a 15 year old who is scared and asking me if he is safe", she said.

"This is a quiet street and we don't want anything to do with it.  When it's a couple of doors down you just want to keep your head down and keep well away.  It's so unnerving all this going on so close to our family home".

'No-one was answering the door to the property this morning, but someone was seen pulling aside the blinds to look outside when media knocked at the door.  A woman was seen driving out of the garage shortly before 7 am...

'Among properties raided was the Al-Furqan Centre, an Islamic Information Centre in Springvale South...

"In a series of lectures posted on the marginal group's Facebook page, leader Abu Talha claimed to have records of phone conversations showing Al Furqan was the subject of an ASIO probe.

And from the sound of things, if it was, then ASIO  was merely exercising due diligence. - CM

'A Muslim Australian (that is, a Muslim currently holding an Australian passport - CM) who occasionally (just how 'occasionally'? did the journalists think to ask?  once a week? once a month? once a year? - CM) prayed at the Al Furqan Centre said they were a splinter group.

Suuuure. And if they are, why is he praying there even 'occasionally? - CM

"The organisation itself has been around for a while, they have been on the fringes", the man said.

"They are a splinter group that decided to go their own way, they had their own ideologies and interpretations and the other stuff that goes with it".

So why was he 'praying' with them?  It might have been interesting to ask him to go into specifics about those 'ideologies' and 'interpretations' and in what way they differ from what is made quite clear in the Quran, Sira and Hadith. - CM

'The self-funded (how? By sales of books and videos?  But if that's the case, they must be selling quite a lot of them, in order to stay afloat -  CM) Al Furqan centre broke away from the Dandenong mosque several years ago (plausible deniability? - CM) but the so-called Sheikh Harun is not recognised as a Sheikh or Imam by the wider Islamic community and is not believed to have completed formal religious scholarship, the man said.

So he said.  But is anyone checking on this? - CM

'"He's not a sheikh", the man said, adding [that] Muslims from Dandenong, Preston and Brunswick mosques also attend the centre for prayers.

But it's just a tiny, teeny, marginalised splinter group that isn't a recognized part of the Muslim 'community' in Victoria? - CM

'A man who lives near the Al Furqan centre said police swooped at 6 am.

'"It moved swiftly, it was obviously a covert operation", he said.

"There used to be a lot more people at the centre than there are now".

How many more?  And when did the numbers suddenly and mysteriously drop off? - CM

"99 percent of the time they are men and they keep to themselves".

'Another neighbour of the centre, who did not want to be named (I wonder why? - CM) said members showed up and prayed on his front lawn behind police lines.

That is trespassing.  It would be interesting to know whether this wary gentleman is a Muslim or a non-Muslim.   - CM

"They have never done that before.  I think it was a statement against police more than anything", he said.

'A third neighbour, Leanne Rhodes, who lives opposite the centre on Wardale Road, said at least 50 police surrounded the area from 9 am and stayed until after 5 pm.

"I opened up my bedroom window and heard loud voices.  I saw police everywhere and I thought, 'my God, what's going on?' she said.

"They (police) were in and out of the shop all day".

'Ms Rhodes said three Islamic men were taken outside and were praying in front of the police.

"They all just sat there in a circle, the police were just watching them."

'She said some nights dozens of people packed into the Wardale Road store.

"There would have to be 50-plus".

Any outfit that is mustering regular meetings of 50-plus people does not look exactly like a tiny marginalised 'fringe group', to me. - CM

"But there is nothing threatening about them. (Really? Maybe you don't find it threatening.  But that, my dear fellow-citizen and fellow Infidel, is because you appear not to have educated yourself sufficiently about Islam, jihad, sharia and dhimmitude.  I hope you will remedy that omission, soon.  Before it's too late. - CM).  We don't think, 'Oh god they are meeting again'.  They leave everyone alone".

Perhaps.  For now.  And you, my dear lady, are living right next to where they meet.  'Work accidents' aside, they are not going to blow up their own HQ.  They will reserve that honour for someplace else.

If you click on the link I've provided, there are photos of all the premises mentioned in the article, including one of the houses that was raided in Narre Warren South. - CM

'A neighbour said that a Msulim family lived in the home on Ormond Road, Narre Warren South, that police raided.

"There was a lot of police, they have been there all day", the neighbour said.

Making a very thorough search, one must presume. - CM

"I have never had any trouble from them".

Yet. - CM

'victoria Police Assistant Commissioner for Crime Steve Fontana said the investigation was ongoing....".

Posted on 09/13/2012 1:10 AM by Christina McIntosh
Thursday, 13 September 2012
Stand Firm, Mr. Romney

Everyone is jumping on Mitt Romney for his statement that at times like this we should stand solidly for the American right of free speech and American values, not apologize for them. Others say that the embassy statement was meant to try to dampen down the escalating situation and so anything said was justified. The White House later distanced itself from that statement which has been removed from the website and only reported in truncated form. NYTimes:

The embassy statement, issued hours before protests in Cairo and the attack in Libya began, had tried to mollify Muslims upset at an American-made anti-Islam video. “We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others,” the statement said.

For Mr. Romney, whose 2010 book, “No Apology,” assailed Mr. Obama for what he saw as trying to placate America’s enemies, the embassy statement rankled. When aides showed it to him, they said he reacted strongly to the notion of “hurt” religious feelings. In his mind, they said, the Obama administration was aligning itself with those who would do harm to the United States. Already on the defensive for not mentioning Afghanistan in his convention speech and losing some ground in recent polls, Mr. Romney saw an opportunity to draw a stark contrast.

On MSNBC this morning Zbigniew Brzezinski said the bigger question is "what are we going to do about these hatemongers who deliberately provoke the Muslim world?"

Of course the Muslim world is permanently provoked and any little thing can and will set them off as we have seen time and time again. Let's deal with that as a reality rather than continually trying to placate them as if they were children. They're not children. They know their own minds. It is we who do not know what is in their minds because we do not want to see.

Posted on 09/13/2012 7:44 AM by Rebecca Bynum
Thursday, 13 September 2012
"Sam Bacile" a Copt with a Dicey Past

Why did he claim to be an Israeli?

(CNN) -- The murky account of a man who says he is responsible for a film that ridiculed the Prophet Mohammed is raising questions about everything -- from his identity to the production.

In telephone calls with news agencies, a man identifying himself as Sam Bacile said he was the man who made the movie that roiled the Islamic world.

In Egypt and Libya, mobs targeted U.S. missions and blamed America for the film.

In the end, U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and three other Americans in the Libyan city of Benghazi were dead, though it is not clear whether the attack was solely incited by the film.

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Bacile identified himself as a 52-year-old Israeli-American real estate developer from California.

He characterized the movie, "Innocence of Muslims," as "a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam," the newspaper reported.

"Islam is a cancer," he said. "The movie is a political movie. It's not a religious movie."

He said he was backed by Jewish donors, who contributed $5 million to make the film. Based on the trailer, however, the movie, crude and cartoonish, appears to have been produced on a low budget.

Other questions surfaced about Bacile's claims.

Israel's Foreign Ministry said there was no record of a Sam Bacile with Israeli citizenship.

"This guy is totally anonymous. At this point, no one can confirm he holds Israeli citizenship, and even if he did we are not involved," ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said.

CNN has been unable to contact Bacile and cannot verify his claims. A search by CNN of public records related to Bacile came up empty.

Steve Klein, an anti-Muslim activist who said he was a script consultant for the movie, said Bacile had gone into hiding.

"He's very depressed, and he's upset," Klein said Wednesday. "I talked to him this morning, and he said that he was very concerned for what happened to the ambassador."

Casting further doubt on the filmmaker's identity, The Atlantic later quoted Klein as saying Sam Bacile was a pseudonym.

He told The Atlantic he did not know Bacile's real name.

Klein is known in Southern California for his vocal opposition to the construction of a mosque in Temecula, southeast of Los Angeles, in 2010. He heads up Concerned Citizens for the First Amendment, a group that contends Islam is a threat to American freedom.

A search of entertainment records turned up no previous mention of a Sam Bacile, and the directors and writers guilds had no listing for him.

A casting call published in July 2011 in Backstage magazine and in other publications for actors identifies the working title of the movie as "Desert Warrior" and describes it as a "historical Arabian Desert adventure film."

But the 80 cast and crew members involved in the making of the movie said they were "grossly misled" about its intent.

"The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer," they said in a statement to CNN.

They said they were "shocked by the drastic rewrites of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred."

An actress in the film, who asked not to be identified, said the original script did not include a Prophet Mohammed character. She said she and other actors complained that their lines had been changed.

The woman said she spoke Wednesday with the producer, who is identified in the advertisement as Sam Bassiel.

"He said he wrote the script because he wants the Muslims to quit killing," she said. "I had no idea he was doing all this."

The actress said that the character of Mohammed in the movie was named George when it was shot, and that after production wrapped she returned and read other lines that may have been dubbed into the piece.

A member of the production staff who worked on the film and has a copy of the original script corroborated the woman's account. There was no mention of Mohammed or Islam, the crew member said.

The movie was shown in June at an undisclosed theater and drew only 10 patrons, according to the Los Angeles Times. Then the movie was called "Innocence of Bin Laden," the newspaper reported.

Klein told the Los Angeles Times that the movie was shown in Hollywood in hopes of drawing Islamic extremists.

The name Sam Bacile surfaced in July when somebody posted a 14-minute movie trailer on YouTube under the name. The film was posted under several titles, including "Mohammed Movie Trailer" and "Innocence of Muslims."

ABC:

The filmmaker who produced an incendiary, anti-Muslim movie that stirred extremists Tuesday to storm the U.S. embassy in Egypt and may be linked to the fatal attack on the U.S. ambassador in Libya may have gone into hiding, as doubts rose as to his true identity.

Following yesterday's riots, a California man calling himself Sam Bacile took credit for making the film "Innocence of the Muslims" and identified himself as an Israeli Jew in two news interviews. In an interview with the Associated Press, he called Islam "a cancer."

But a search of public records and inconsistencies in Bacile's own accounts, as well as information from a radical Christian who helped produced the movie all suggest that "Sam Bacile" is a pseudonym and is not Israeli but an Arab Christian.

"I've met him twice. He is not a citizen of Israel. He is in hiding," Steve Klein, a member of a far-right anti-Islamic Christian group who says he helped with the film's production, told ABC News.

Klein said Bacile was not Israeli or Jewish, and suggested he was an Arab Christian who was a U.S. citizen.

The Atlantic:

The search for those behind the provocative, anti-Muslim film implicated in violent protests in Egypt and Libya led Wednesday to a California Coptic Christian convicted of financial crimes who acknowledged his role in managing and providing logistics for the production.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, told The Associated Press in an interview outside Los Angeles that he was manager for the company that produced "Innocence of Muslims," which mocked Muslims and the prophet Muhammad and may have caused inflamed mobs that attacked U.S. missions in Egypt and Libya. He provided the first details about a shadowy production group behind the film.

Nakoula denied he directed the film and said he knew the self-described filmmaker, Sam Bacile. But the cellphone number that AP contacted Tuesday to reach the filmmaker who identified himself as Sam Bacile traced to the same address near Los Angeles where AP found Nakoula. Federal court papers said Nakoula's aliases included Nicola Bacily, Erwin Salameh and others...

Nakoula denied he had posed as Bacile. During a conversation outside his home, he offered his driver's license to show his identity but kept his thumb over his middle name, Basseley. Records checks by the AP subsequently found it and other connections to the Bacile persona.

Posted on 09/13/2012 8:20 AM by Rebecca Bynum
Thursday, 13 September 2012
Jihad in Burma, Update: A Town Divided Because Muslims Can't Be Trusted

As reported by Australian ABC's Zoe Daniel (who is full of sympathy for what she obviously sees as the poor, persecuted Muslims, and seems to have rather less interest in or sympathy for the native Rakhine Buddhists who have been under attack from the Muslims; the accompanying video news clip that you can watch if you click on the link, gives a lot more 'face time' to Rohingya Muslims airing their grievances, than it does to the Buddhists).

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-13/community-separated-to-calm-burmas-ethnic-tension/4260252

'Burmese town segregated after ethnic violence'.

No: not 'ethnic' violence.  Inter-religious violence.  Started by the Muslims, as one discovers when one takes a close, careful look at the sequence of events (and at what preceded those events, over past decades). Muslims are past masters at starting a fight then spinning round and pretending to be poor little suffering victims.  - CM

'Authorities in Western Burma's Rakhine state are enforcing their policy of segregation in an effort to prevent further fighting between indigenous people and the Muslim community.

In these sorts of reports it's always 'fighting between', in a 'plague on both houses' tone.  But when Muslims push, and push, and push, and then the targeted non-Muslims push back, is it really a matter of throwing up one's hands and viewing the rights and wrongs of the dispute as being beyond comprehension?  And one must, at all costs, avoid ever viewing Muslims as unprovoked aggressors and bullies who, occasionally, push their victims too far and then must endure Consequences. - CM

'Thousands of homes were burnt and dozens of people died (they did not 'die' - they did not mysteriously drop dead by themselves - they were killed, by active human agents - CM) when violence flared in June and tensions remain extremely high.

That is: the Muslims are seething because their little jihad struck unexpected resistance; and the Buddhists are angry and afraid and thoroughly fed up. - CM

'In the state's main town of Sittwe, there are holes where homes once stood, and the community's wounds are still beyond repair.

Ms Daniel: please read Surah 48: 29 of the Quran.  It tells you that Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, and compassionate only to one another (though even that doesn't seem to be much in evidence in many parts of the Ummah).  And study up on the dar al Islam/ dar al Harb region-of-Submission/ region-of-war distinction that Islam teaches, and the cardinal principle of Al Wala wa al-Baraa,  Loyalty (to fellow Muslims only) and Enmity (toward all non-Muslims qua non-Muslims).   Then ask yourself how the adherents of a warlike cult or 'religion', that views all non-cultists as enemies and/ or as Lawful Prey - there to be converted, or subjugated, or killed - can possibly be content to live, long-term, peacefully side-by-side with non-cultists in a country that its cult members do not rule.  There was no 'community' in Sittwe - inhabited by Muslims and Buddhists - to begin with, for the Muslims themselves would not have seen it as one 'community'.  They would have seen themselves as an outpost of dar al Islam, established in the midst of a Zone of War inhabited by the najis kuffar, the filthy Unbelievers.  The breach that is now visible is the breach that, in the minds of the Muslims, was always there. - CM

'An uneasy calm in the town is artificial.

'Even the monsoon cannot dampen the anger of the ethnic Rakhine (that is, the native Rakhine Buddhists - CM) who lost their homes.

Whose homes - and Buddhist shrines, too - were attacked and destroyed by rampaging Muslims. - CM

'More than 5,000 now live together in monasteries, with monks who blame Muslim doctrine for recent violence.

Ms Daniel, if you had done your homework, you would have been able to write: "with monks who have correctly identified the teachings of Islam as the source of Muslim aggression toward non-Muslims". - CM

"If people don't follow the path laid down by Allah, they shall be killed", Buddhist monk U Kumara said.

It is interesting that he uses the term 'path'.  For although Buddhism may speak of 'paths',  one should remember that 'shari'a' is an Arabic word that means 'path' or 'way'.  I suspect that our Buddhist monk may have done more homework on Islam than the naive Aussie reporter who is interviewing him. - CM

"These people believe this teaching and do not have love, compassion and forgiveness".

You are right, U Kumara.  That is Islam in a nutshell.  As Joseph Schacht wrote, in his 'An Introduction to Islamic Law': 'the Islamic attitude towards unbelievers is the law of war; they must be converted, or subjugated, or killed'. - CM

'Monks deny accusations that they are stirring tensions that ignited in June.

Good god.  What the monks are doing is telling it like it is.  Muslim doctrine is the source and driver of Muslim aggression against non-Muslims...everywhere, and for as long as Islam has been in existence.  If U Kumara is a representative sample of his brethren, then his brethren are doing far better than many a Western politician, diplomat, journalist and religious leader, at identifying the source and driver of the Global Jihad. - CM

'It appears that the rape and murder of an ethnic Rakhine woman (that is, of a Buddhist woman - CM) by Muslim men sparked the mob killing of 10 Muslim leaders, which was followed by an outbreak of communal violence that has claimed dozens of lives on both sides.

So. The Muslims raped and murdered a Buddhist woman (just as their fellow cultists have done to millions of other non-Muslim women all over the world, for 1400 years).  Local Buddhist villagers, infuriated by this outrage (and one wonders whether the rape and murder were an isolated incident, or whether there had not been, over the past years or decades, other Muslim acts of aggression, such that this was merely the 'last straw'), attacked...and it is interesting that they are said to have attacked 'Muslim leaders', not just any random Muslim on the street.  And then, one may reasonably guess, the Muslims unloosed the jihad - massive mobs of rampaging thugs - and that the Buddhists put up an unexpected (by the Muslims) good fight in self-defence.  I will add that any reporter worth their salt should look very carefully into what exactly was destroyed on both sides and how much - what did the Buddhist side attack and destroy, what did the Muslims attack and destroy, what number of temples have been razed as compared to mosques - and what the estimated number of Buddhist casualties is, as compared to the estimated number of Muslim casualties, and of those casualties, on both sides, what proportion are 'combatants' (men of military age) and what proportion are non-combatants.  Because then that vague expression 'dozens of lives on both sides' might give way to a clearer picture of who was the aggressor, and in what way. And I have to say that, on balance, if I were doing such an investigation, I would be inclined to believe Buddhist witnesses more readily than Muslim witnesses, because...Muslims lie.  - CM 

'Human Rights Watch alleges that the Burmese army at best failed to intervene, and at worst was involved in targeting Muslims, something authorities deny.

'But the community has long been bitterly divided.

Yes.  Dar al Harb and Dar al Islam...- CM

'Rakhine see the Muslims, who call themselves Rohingya, as invaders from Bangladesh.

'And Muslims, who say they have been in the area for generations, have few rights and are denied Burmese citizenship.

I will just note that my historic geographical encyclopedia, 'Lands and Peoples' (1951) in its chapter on 'Burma on the Bay of Bengal: A Land Where Women Are Independent', though it mentions many of the non-Bama ethnic groups in Burma/ Myanmar, such as the Chin, Padaung, Karen, Lisu and Shan, says nothing whatever about any Muslim group called 'Rohingya'.  So when that chapter was written - and the very first edition of 'Lands and Peoples' came out in 1929 -  it does not seem that they can have been very visible. - CM

'Now, authorities have separated the two.

'No sense of security'.

'Almost 70,000 Muslims are living in camps.  Abdha Majid is one of them.  He says they cannot leave.

"There are people watching us in order to contain us", he said.  "We cannot go anywhere else.  If we go, we'll be beaten".

'In town, the Rakhine can go about their business but at the main market, security passes are issued to non-Muslims only, and inside, formerly Muslim-run shops are shut.

Strikes me that the Burmese government is acting on the precautionary principle; and though in general  I deplore the repressive nature of their regime, and the persecution they have meted out to groups such as the Chin and Karen Christians, I really cannot see that, in dealing with the Muslims, the Burmese authorities could do anything other than they have done, if they wish to resist and contain the Jihad.  The behaviour of rioting Muslim mobs elsewhere in the world - in Assam in neighbouring India, for example - surely has not escaped their notice. - CM

'What has happened here (that is, what the Muslims have done here - CM) has left behind deep anxiety among ethnic Rakhine people (that is, among the local Buddhists - CM) who say they cannot co-exist again.

That is: they have learned that they cannot trust Muslims.  They have seen the flaming eyes and gaping maws of Jihad; heard the wild howls of allahu akbar, and seen their homes and temples set on fire.  - CM

"There's no sense of security at all", shop-keeper Khin Saw Oo said.

"I am able to open my shop only because there are police and military.  If they were not here, there would be no security at all.

'Even now, we're living in fear".

'Muslims have attempted to visit the market to buy supplies, but even guarded by riot police, they have been chased off by people wielding makeshift weapons'.

It appears, from an earlier report presented by Ms Daniel, here:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-07/an-tensions-remain-high-in-burma27s-rakhine-state/4248844 

that she may have witnessed this particular incident herself -

"The level of tension remains very high, and that was extremely evident to us", she said.

"In one instance, a group of Muslim people from one of the camps came to the main market to buy supplies under guard of the riot police.  They were chased away by people wielding sticks and throwing stones because of concern if they entered the market that could lead to violence, unrest and perhaps that the market may be burnt down or something similar to the sort of unrest that we saw back in June".

So it seems that the angry, frightened non-Muslim townspeople in Rakhine, Burma, have simply had enough, (and they may well have heard stories of Muslims blowing things up, in markets, in other parts of the world, such that they just don't feel like taking risks, anymore).  It is, however, worth noting that Ms Daniel's second report in describing Muslims being chased away from the market gives the impression that it had happened more than once, whereas her first report, as quoted here, speaks of 'one instance'. - CM

Posted on 09/13/2012 7:11 PM by Christina McIntosh
Thursday, 13 September 2012
FGM in sydney, Australia: Dawoodi Bohra Sheikh, Retired (Non-Muslim?) Nurse and Two Others Arrested Over FGM Of Two Little Girls

I first encountered this story in an ABC report which almost entirely avoids any terminology which could possibly suggest 'Muslims' or 'Islam' to the reader.  I will put that report up first, as a classic of its kind; together with the later reports, from other sources somewhat less mealy-mouthed, to which I was directed by a fellow-poster at jihadwatch.  

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-13/four-arrested-over-genital-mutilation-of-girls/4260112

'Four charged over genital mutilation of girls'

'Police say a retired nurse and the leader of a religious sect are among four people arrested over the genital mutilation of two young girls in New South Wales.

'An anonymous tip-off to the Department of Community Services sparked an investigation into the alleged mutilation of two girls, aged six and seven.

'Police have arrested and charged a 68-year-old retired nurse, who they believe performed the prodcedures, a 56 year old sheikh accused of hindering the investigation, and a 42 year old man and 35 year old woman.

'Sheikh'.  The one and only clue, in this entire report, that the subject matter has to do with...Muslims. - CM

'Superintendant John Kerlatec says the practice is illegal even when done under medical supervision.

"Police will be alleging that it's part of a cultural belief", he said.

A 'cultural belief' that has no place whatsoever in civilised Australia or anywhere else on the face of the planet. - CM

'Community Services Minister Pru Goward says police began investigating after a tip-off to her office.

"And from that, Community Services was able to pursue the allegations and the claims to the point where charges could be laid", she said.

'Ms Goward says it is the first time anyone has been charged over such a crime in New South Wales.

Given that we have Muslims in Australia from Indonesia, Somalia, Sudan and Egypt, all of them places where the Shafiite school of Sunni sharia law obtains, which holds that the excision of the clitoris of women is 'obligatory', I would hazard the guess that this case - though the first to be detected and prosecuted - is by no means the only time that little girls have been genitally mutilated, in Australia. And although it is represented as a 'cultural' practice not inherently part of Islam, the fact is that of the three other schools of Sunni sharia, two speak highly of FGM - that is, of clitoral excision - even if they don't go so far as to make it 'obligatory'; and the third neither condemns nor forbids it.  Furthermore: we will see, from another report, below, that these particular Muslims were not Sunnis but from a sub-group aligned with the Shiites, thus revealing to us that FGM is practised by at least some within that tradition, too.  - CM

'She says it is a warning to anyone who thinks the practice is acceptable. "It is an abhorrent practice and the full force of the law will be brought to bear".

'Ms Goward says it is unlikely to be an isolated incident.

"The secrecy with which this is carried out often makes it very difficult for police to collect sufficient evidence".

Until young Muslim women, born and brought up in Australia, turn up in labour wards attempting to give birth; then what has been done to them will be only too dreadfully clear to the attending midwives and obstetricians. - CM

'Police say the children are still in their parents' care'.

And yet, from another report, we discover that the parents themselves are the other two people charged in this case.

Now for the somewhat less tippy-toeing reports from other parts of the Australian press.  First, Paul Bibby's report for the Sydney Morning Herald, which puts 'sheikh' in its headline.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-sheikh-in-court-over-female-genital-mutilation-20120913-25ubq.html

'Sydney sheikh in court over 'female genital mutilation''

"A Sydney sheikh has appeared in court in relation to the alleged genital mutilation of two children.

'Sheikh Shabbir Vazir, 56, who police sources say is part of a lesser-known branch of Islam, has been charged with two counts of accessory after the fact of female genital mutilation and hindering investigation of a serious indictable offence.

'Police will allege the two girls had the procedure, which is also known as female circumcision, performed on them in NSW when they were aged six and seven within the past 18 months.

'Police allege one mutilation was performed in Sydney; the other in another metropolitan area.

'Mr Vaziri, who was arrested today, appeared in Burwood Local Court this afternoon and was granted bail.

'The magistrate, Chris Longley, noted that the "overwhelming majority of the community would consider [it] a most serious set of circumstances."  However, he said there was a presumption in favour of bail for the offence, and that Mr Vaziri did not have any prior criminal history.

'The police prosecutor opposed bail, saying that the sheikh "was a flight risk".

In other words, he might shoot through to someplace in dar al Islam.  From one point of view, so long as having done so he never returned to Australia, that might not be such a bad thing. - CM

"The accused has an Indian passport and was about to depart", he said.

'Three other people have been charged over the alleged genital mutilation.

'Also arrested today was a 68 year old woman who has been charged with two counts of prohibition (?) of female genital mutilation.

'Police will allege the woman performed the procedure on the girls.

'She has been granted conditional bail and will face Campbelltown Local Court on October 3.

'A 42 year old man and 35 year old woman were arrested last Friday and charged with two counts each of female genital mutilation.

'They were granted bail and will appear at Parramatta Local Court on September 26.

'Investigations by Strike Force Longfield are continuing and police are also appealing for anyone with information about female genital mutilation to come forward.

'The strike force began its investigations recently and has been working closely with NSW Health and the Department of Family and Community Services.

'Female genital mutilation is illegal in NSW.  It is also an offence to take a NSW resident overseas to have the procedure performed...".

From the Sydney Morning Herald, we now consult Sydney's Herald-Sun, whose report - by their Crime Editor, Mark Morri -  fills in the picture a little more.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/sheik-over-female-genital-mutilation/story-fndo317g-1226473482572

'Sheik charged over female mutilation'.

'A Sheik and [a] retired nurse have been charged in relation to the genital mutilation of two young girls in Sydney.

'Police arrested the Sheik, 56, from Auburn, and the 68 year old nurse, earlier today.

'From Auburn'.  No surprises about that.  Auburn, in south-west Sydney, is the most heavily Islamised district of Australia. - CM

'The children's parents were charged last Friday with two counts of female mutilation.

Neither the ABC nor the SMH identified the parents as the other two culprits in this case. - CM

'NSW Police Force's Sex Crimes Squad began investigating the allegations earlier this year and set up Strike Force Longfield and have been working closely with NSW Health and the Department of Family and Community Services...

'The mutilation is unlikely to be an isolated case, NSW Family and Community Services and Minister Pru Goward says.  

'Ms Goward told reporters the investigation was triggered by an anonymous tip-off to her office, and she understood it to be the first time in NSW someone has been charged with female genital mutilation.

'She would not say if the circumcision of the two girls was for cultural or religious reasons (she should read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's 'Infidel' and 'The Caged Virgin', and Waris Dirie's 'Desert Flower', and consult Rev Dr Mark Durie about the manual of Shafiite law known as the 'Reliance of the Traveller, in which it is stated plainly that 'circumcision' is obligatory, and that 'circumcision' of the female is 'by cutting out the clitoris', and then she would know that there is a huge swathe of the Ummah that regards this cruel mutilation as mandatory; not to mention the other two schools of Sharia that view it as desirable - though not absolutely obligatory - and one that quietly refrains from condemning or forbidding it. - CM) but added [that] it was "unlikely" to be an isolated incident.

"That's why the rules were changed in 1994, because I believe that the state was aware that this was a distinct possibility", Ms Goward told reporters at NSW Parliament.

"It is disappointing in a way that it has taken this long for there to be a case where there was sufficient evidence collected to be able to press charges and make arrests".

We will see why that might be so, when we read what the Daily Telegraph - which minced its words least of all the Aussie media - had to say. - CM

'Ms Goward said female genital mutilation was an "abhorrent practice" and "a form of child abuse".

"It is illegal, and whilst there might be cultural practices acceptable to some communities in NSW, it remains the case that it is illegal, and that the full force of the law will be brought to bear", Ms Goward said.  

'She would not reveal where the two girls were being cared for, or who was caring for them, but said "they are safe, and not at risk of further harm"...

And now for Mark Morri and the Daily Telegraph, in a report pulling few punches.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/barbarity-of-being-kept-in-the-dark-ages/story-e6freuzi-1226473744135

'The barbarity of being kept in the dark ages'.

Actually, that's an insult to our 'dark age' European forebears, none of whom thought it necessary to do to a woman's body what portions of pre-Islamic and non-Islamic Africa used to do, and which a very large chunk of the Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, together with some non-Muslim African groups, did and are still doing. - CM

'A Sydney sheikh accused of involvement in the barbaric "genital circumcision" of sisters aged 6 and 7 is alleged to have told his Muslim community to lie about its widespread practice.

'Police claim Sheik Shabbir Mohammed Bhai Vaziri told members of the Dawoodi Bohra community at Auburn to lie to police when they questioned them over the mutilations.

The Dawoodi Bohra are a sub-group of the Ismaili sub-group of Islam, aligned with the Shiites rather than with the Sunnis. They appear to have roots in Yemen, but are now largely found in India, from whence they have migrated to the western world, including Australia.  One version of their history can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawoodi_Bohra 

I have often wondered whether FGM - viewed as obligatory by one school of Sunni Sharia, praised by two, and not forbidden by the fourth - was known of and practised among Shiites.  It appears, from this case, that at least one Shiite-aligned part of the Ummah does genitally mutilate its girls.  - CM

'Vaziri, 56, of Auburn, Helen Magennis, 68, a retired nurse of Campbelltown, and the children's parents have all been charged in relation to the alleged acts on the girls.

'Police allege the procedures were carried out by Magennis...

Why is a nurse with a resoundingly-non-Muslim name - 'Helen Magennis' - agreeing to do such a thing?  Is she, perhaps, a convert to Islam?  Or did she do it after being asked, because she thought that if she didn't, it would be done anyway, by someone else without any medical training?  But if she were asked to do it, why did she not report the request the instant it was made, and have the girls removed from danger before anything could be done to them? - CM

...

'The two children are still in the care of their parents.

"They are good parents"  NSW sex crimes unit head Detective Superintendent John Kerlatic said.

No they are not.  They just had their daughters permanently and drastically harmed.   - CM

"It may seem a contradiction to say that when the parents are facing such serious charges.  But they are not in danger of any physical abuse".

They have just been subjected to gross physical abuse.  And as for their not being at risk of any other harm: I wouldn't be so sure.  The beating of children is commonplace within the Ummah, as also the beating of wives. - CM

'Vaziri appeared in Burwood court yesterday on two counts of being an accessory after the fact to female genital mutilation, and hindering the police investigation.

'Police allege Vaziri hindered the investigation by telling people to lie about the extent of female genital mutilation.

And that is why it has been so difficult to detect and pursue the practitioners of this gross and sadistic abuse of little girls and young women.  Because the Muslim Ummah stick together like glue and lie through their teeth about it.  Because their 'clerics', like Vaziri, tell them to do it; and then tell them to lie about it.  - CM

'Magistrate Chris Longley said despite what many people would see as very serious charges, he was granting bail under strict conditions.

'He said police opposed bail saying Vaziri was a flight risk.

'Mr Longley ordered Vaziri surrender his passport and report to Auburn police daily and appear in Parramatta Local Court on September 26.

'The parents were charged last Friday, granted bail and ordered to reappear in court on September 26.

I wonder whether they will attempt to flit. - CM

'Magennis is alleged to have carried out the procedure, and was granted bail to reappear on October 3."

I will conclude with the Daily Telegraph editorial, which is not too bad, though still ducking the issue of Islam. The writer has consulted Ayaan Hirsi Ali and gives her a good review.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/time-to-protect-girls-from-cruel-side-of-culture/story-e6frezz0-1226473719363

'Time to protect girls from cruel side of culture'

'Few in Australia realise that female genital mutilation or FGM is an issue both here and in other modern multicultural nations.

'The subject is largely kept from discussion, for a number of reasons.

'The first is simply because the issue is so viscerally unpleasant.  It isn't exactly the sort of topic that makes for an easy conversation.

'The second is that many feel uncomfortable taking a judgmental stand on the issue, for fear of offending those whose cultures still practise FGM.

And that is why people need to understand exactly what this vile practice is: what is done to a young girl's body, exposing her at the time to a risk of death from massive blood loss and/ or resultant infection, and then - should she survive - damaging her health and her ability to give birth. There are some 'cultural practices' - like human sacrifice, and slavery, and the binding and breaking of little girls' feet in pre-modern China - that we in the West were and are right to view as simply evil; practices that the human race is better off without.  FGM is such a practice.  - CM

'And a third is a tactical matter.  Authorities and people who work in liaison with cultural groups may believe that in order to stamp out any occurrence of FGM, it is better to proceed quietly rather than cause a ruckus.

'Yet FGM keeps happening, in Australia and elsewhere.

And most of the people who are doing it are Muslims.  Sunni Muslims who follow the Shafiite school of Sharia, prevalent in Egypt, southern Arabia, Bahrain, Kurdistan, Somalia, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia  - and some among those who follow the Hanbali and the Hanafi schools - and even among some, like these Dawoodi Bohra who have just been caught mutilating their girls in Sydney, who align with Shiite Islam. Islam did not invent the practice, and there are some non-Muslim groups - all of them in Africa - that still practice it; but a large chunk of Islam absorbed it and has perpetuated it and carried it far beyond Africa, and is still doing it today. - CM

'There are reports of young girls being sent from their new homes back to their countries of origin, so that the hideous procedure can be undertaken.  Over the years, there have also been scattered accounts of FGM being undertaken in modern, westernised nations.

'It is time that greater attention be given to FGM and that the subject be given more mainstream attention.  Up until this point, FGM has primarily only become a prominent matter for discussion during visits by activists urging Australia to be more aware of the practice.

'Somalian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, for example, conducted a number of fascinating interviews during her visit here in 2010.

'A former Muslim and a victim herself of FGM, Hirsi Ali has written extensively of the cultural background to genital mutilation.

"The excision of women is cruel on many levels.  It is physically cruel and painful; it sets girls up for a lifetime of suffering", Hirsi Ali wrote in her book 'Infidel'.  That briefly sums up the case against FGM.

'The case for it, of course, is absolutely non-existent.  FGM is simply the holdover from cultures that have been allowed to avoid modernisation.

'It is a throwback to an era of subjugation that is almost incomprehensible to the 21st century mindset, which is probably yet another reason people find it so difficult to talk about.

'Let's not dodge around it any more.  FGM is abhorrent.  Wherever it exists, it must be stopped."

And there are a lot of other things that we should stop 'dodging around' and, rather, tackle head on and out loud, in public.  Like Muslim polygyny, and the forced 'marriage' of little under-age girls, both of which are also going on behind closed doors within the west, protected by the same code of silence that Sheikh Vaziri imposed on his flock as regards FGM.  And then we might discuss 'honor' murders, and the fact that the Quran and Hadith sanction wife-beating, and the requirement that those who criticise Islam, and those who try to leave Islam, must be killed...- CM

Posted on 09/13/2012 8:56 PM by Christina McIntosh

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