These are all the Blogs posted on Saturday, 7, 2010.
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Special investigation: How predatory gangs force middle-class girls into the sex trade
This is the Daily Mail presenting important facts but failing to make the ultimate connection and come to the logical conclusion. The readers are less squeamish. I'll let you read for yourself, but these are what I think are the important bits.
If Emma’s story were a one-off it would be distressing enough, but the reality is that it is not. Many schoolgirls - some aged just eight - all over the north of England are falling prey to gangs who groom them to be lucrative sex slaves.
As with Emma, the experience of this girl has a very uncomfortable racial element to it, which is often not spoken about. In both cases, they were white girls and the gang members were Asian.
Emma says: ‘Most of the men running the sex slave gangs in the north of England are Asians of Pakistani origin. But very few of the authorities will admit this.’
Is she right to say so? If she is, why are so few people in officialdom willing to discuss the issue?
At this point, two things should be stressed. First, that the great majority of Asian men are law-abiding decent citizens, who often possess stronger family values than their white counterparts. Second, that rape and paedophilia are universal problems that have nothing to do with race and ethnicity. Yeah, right!
But it’s also true that, during this investigation, I encountered a reluctance to comment on the racial element of these dreadful crimes. One charity — Risky Business, operating in Rotherham — refused to answer any questions on the racial make-up of the gangs, although, with the help of Emma herself, it counsels scores of white girls who have been sexually exploited by Asians.
At another charity, Coalition for the Removal of Pimping, based in Leeds, the chief executive Gillian Gibbons said: ‘This is a crime committed by men. We are trying to work in their communities to change their attitudes to women. I cannot comment on the race of the criminals involved.’
So it has been left to the mothers of the victims, former local MP Ann Cryer and some Asian youth workers to highlight the problem. The mothers say that political correctness and a fear of being branded racist is at the heart of the taboo. One mother from Yorkshire, whose 13-year-old girl was lured into sex slavery, told me: ‘Almost every man found guilty of grooming under-age girls in this part of Britain is Asian, and everyone knows that.
It was Ann Cryer who provoked a storm when she blamed traditional Asian culture for these kinds of attacks. Seven years ago, she said: ‘It’s a fact that all the victims of these terrible crimes are white girls, and all the alleged perpetrators are Asian men. That is significant and needs to be addressed. She later added: ‘The family and cultural norms of their community means the Asian men are expected to marry a first cousin or another relative. Therefore, until the marriage is arranged, they look for sex. There is also a problem with the view Asian men have about white girls. It is generally fairly low.’
Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Lancashire-based Ramadhan Foundation, a charity working for peaceful harmony between different ethnic communities, has gone further. He says: ‘I think the police are over cautious about this issue because they fear being branded racist. That they fear being branded racist. That is wrong. These are criminals that should be treated as criminals whatever their race.’
Meanwhile, another Asian youth worker — himself a reformed former pimp — told the Mail that while the gangs’ main aim was to make money there were also cultural issues at play. ‘Asian men in these gangs believe white girls have low morals compared with Muslim girls. They believe they wear what they describe as slags’ clothing showing their bodies, and deserve what they get.’ At last, someone mentions the particular type of 'Asian' involved - not Hindus, or Tibetans, or Taiwanese. Muslims. The M-word has entered the buuilding at last.
Scotland Yard estimates that 5,000 British-born children are today under the control of sex-slave gangs across the UK. At least ten towns on both sides of the Pennines face the problem.
As a victim, Emma knows from advising the girls in Yorkshire that their age is getting younger. ‘A few years ago, the girls were 15 or 16. I was just 13. Now there are plenty of ten-year-olds. The gangs want virgins and girls who are free of sexual diseases. Most of the men buying sex with the girls have Muslim wives, and they don’t want to risk infection. The younger you look, the more saleable you are.’
Only recently, she visited Leeds on a day trip. She was having a coffee in a bar, when the gang’s leader Tarik - her former tormentor - walked through the door but didn’t recognise her, because she was quite a bit older.‘I know he wouldn’t be interested in me any more,’ she says quietly. ‘He was looking for girls who are still children to groom as sex slaves. Younger ones, who the punters will pay the highest price for.’
Posted on 08/07/2010 3:53 AM by Esmerelda Weatherwax
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Eight Members Of Medical Team Murdered In Afghanistan For Being Christians
6 Americans on Medical Team Killed in Afghanistan
Dirk Frans, director of the International Assistance Mission, talks to the Associated Press at their office in Kabul, 07 Aug 2010
An international Christian charity said Saturday that militants have killed its eight-member medical team of six Americans, one German and one Brit, plus two Afghan interpreters, in a remote area of northern Afghanistan.
Dirk Frans, director of the International Assistance Mission, said the medical workers were returning to Kabul from an eye clinic in Nuristan.
The Taliban has claimed responsibility for killing the group.
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahed told news agencies the members of the group were Christian missionaries.
A third Afghan man traveling with the IAM group said he survived by reciting passages from the Quran and saying, "I am Muslim. Don't kill me."
Earlier media reports quoted local officials as saying six Germans and two Americans were killed in the dense forest attack in Badakhshan province.
The local police chief said villagers had warned the group the forest was dangerous.
The bullet-riddled bodies were discovered Friday.
Posted on 08/07/2010 6:56 AM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
What Constitutes A Religion For First Amendment Purposes?
"The bottom line here is painfully simple. Do we change the rules for Muslims? Do we deny they [sic] their First Amendment rights under the Constitution just because of SPECULATION of what you THINK they MIGHT do?" -- from a comment by a Defender of Islam in another thread.
Let's ignore, as that commenter wishes us to, with his remark about mere "SPECULATION of what you THINK they MIGHT do" of the 16,000 separate terrorist acts by Muslims recorded over the past ten years, let's ignore the murders by Muslims of Christians, Juddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Confucians in countries where Muslims already rule, and the non-Musilms are not a threat, are essentially helpless to protect themselves, and let's ignore, for now, the 1350-year history of conquest of non-Muslim lands by Muslims, and the subsequent subjugation of many different non-Muslim peoples, and let's forget the conducting of Jihad -- the "struggle" to remove all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam, all over the world -- at the present-day, especially in the countries of Western Europe, through deployment of the Money Weapon, pro-Islam propaganda, campaigns of Da'wa targetted at the economically and psychically marginal and, above all, demographic conquest. Let's ignore all that, and simply ask, since the pseudo-plaintive pretend-well-meaning plea of "Do we change the rules for Muslims? Do deny they [sic] their First Amendment rights under the Constitution" has been offered, whether Islam is a "religion" within the meaning of the First Amendment, or whether it is a Religion PLUS, a Politics and a Geopolitics along with some rules about worship, and that those aspects of Islam suffuse Islam to such a degree that they cannot simply be separated out, and the sinister exploitation of the First-Amendment, whose freedoms are, by the way, flatly contradicted by the letter and spirit of the Shari'a that Muslims who take Islam to heart would wish to have imposed everywhere, cannot be blandly accepted. If the faith of Islam is suffused with a political and geopolitical ideology, and employs methods of control -- death to apostates! -- akin to a totalitarian political movement, and furthermore, again like a totalitarian movement, offers a Complete Regulation of Life and Comprehensive Explanation of the Universe, then the application of the word "religion" to this Total Belief-System cannot continue to go unexamined and unchallenged.
A few questions to consider:
Can a belief-system whose adherents believe that the Literal and Immutable Word of God includes such things as Qur'an 9.29 and 9.5 -- indeed all of Sura 9 - be considered only, or mainly, a "religion"?
Can a belief-system that includes, in its sacred text, the Qur'an, more than a hundred verses devoted to murderous hostility toward all those who are not Believers -- see the Calcutta Qur'an Petition -- be considered merely or mainly a "religion" for the purposes of the First Amendment protection?
Can a belief-system that does not permit people to exercise freedom of choice, that is does not allow them to leave the religion on pain of death, be considered a "religion" for First Amendment purposes?
Can a belief-system that takes as its central figure, and regards as the Perfect Man, al-insan al-kamil, someone whose life is completely different from that of other central figures, such as Moses, Jesus, and the Buddha, a life that was spent making war, killing those who refused to become his followers, and were taken in battle (as the 600-900 bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, whom Muhammad had decapitated), or greeting with pleasure the news of the murders of those who mocked him in verse (Asma bint Marwan), or attacking those who had never even heard of him and his followers, as the inoffensive Jewish farmers of the Khyabar Oasis, or who "married" and then had sexual intercourse with, little Aisha when she was nine years old.
Who defines a "religion"? Would it surprise people to learn that Islam was, in the Western world, first thought of, in its earliest days, as some kind of satanic offshoot of Christiantiy, or that until the 20th century, when Protestant textbook writers began to produce those series which showed "representatives of the world's great [i.e. large] religions" that the word "Islam" was not described as a "religion" but as a "faith" or a "fanatical faith" and that it was clearly understood, by the educated, who were better at making distinctions than modern mass man appears able to do, that Islam could not be described as a "religioin" the way that Christianity could.
Who decides what constitutes a "religion"? And even if we were to call Islam a "religion" who can deny that it is also, and most importantly, a Politics and a Geopolitics, and that those aspects of the faith are not tangential but central to it, as is the distinction between Believer and Unbeliever, Muslim and Infidel, and the view inculcated that between Muslim and Infidel, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, there exists a state of permanent war, if not always of open warfare. That Muslims exist who pay no attention to this is welcome, but ultimately not consolation enough, because the texts and tenets remain what they are, and we Infidels have no way of knowing what Muslims, moderate today for reasons not everyone may be willing to grasp, including the obvious one of not wishing, while living among Infidels, to alert them to the dangers of Islam, may transform themselves into something quite different, for reasons that might be those of personal desarroi, tomorrow..
Who wishes to disagree with Ibn Warraq's lapidary formula: "There are moderate Muslims. Islam itself is not moderate."
And who is able to provide a definition of the word "religion" suitable for First Amendment protection that takes full acount of the nature of Islam?
Why was what David Koresh had in Waco a "cult" but Methodism a "religion"? And is Islam more akin to what David Koresh was running, with his slavish followers, or more akin to, say, Methodism?
Posted on 08/07/2010 8:36 AM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Jacob Thomas: The Muslim In The West
“The Muslim in the West”
By Jacob Thomas in Collaboration with June Engdahl
Throughout most of their history, Muslims have lived within their homelands, known as “Dar’ul Islam,” (House of Islam). Between the 11th and 15th centuries, with the reconquest of southern Italy and the Iberian Peninsula, Muslims found themselves in a totally new environment. As Bernard Lewis put it,
“In all these countries the reconquest was followed — sometimes after an interval of tolerance – by a determined effort on the part of Christian rulers to convert or else evict their Muslim subjects. In these efforts they were, in the long run, successful. In general, Christian unwillingness to tolerate Muslims was matched by Muslim unwillingness to remain under Christian rule. Most Muslim jurists held that it was impossible for a Muslim to live under a non-Muslim government. If an infidel in the lands of the infidels was converted to Islam it was his duty to leave his home and country and travel to a land where Muslims ruled and Muslim law prevailed. The scriptural authority for this doctrine was the migration (hijra) of the Prophet Muhammad and his companions from Mecca to Medina — the event which marked the birth of the Muslim state and the beginning of the Muslim era. Where the Prophet had led, others were expected to follow.” 1 Pp. 66, 67
This historic tradition underwent a drastic change after World War II. The European nations had suffered the loss of millions of their citizens during the war and their economies were devastated. The post-war years also saw increasingly low birthrates in these war-torn lands. It is not difficult to understand then why European governments encouraged the influx of a large number of foreign workers to help reinvigorate their economies.
Immigrants from North Africa, the Middle East, the Indian sub-continent, and south-east Asia flocked in large numbers and settled in several parts of Western Europe. Many of these foreign workers were of the Muslim faith; and before very long, a few short decades, it became evident that the integration of Muslims in particular into the European societies that had welcomed them would prove very problematical. Immigrants of other religious beliefs made much smoother transitions to Western values and traditions without losing their religious identities.
Quite often, criticisms were levelled against Western societies for their unwillingness to facilitate the assimilation of Muslim immigrants. But when one studied the problem, it became soon evident that it was the Muslim side that was unwilling, or unable to integrate within the societies that had welcomed them. Their unwillingness or inability was due to the fact that these immigrants brought with them a religious baggage that was antithetical to Western culture.
The year 2010 marks more than half a century since the arrival of large numbers of Muslims to the West. Several high profile events have taken place during this period that would allow us to look at the root cause for the problem of “The Muslim in the West.” It was not only Western writers that have pointed to this alarming situation, but some Arab reformist intellectuals have contributed articles that dealt with this troubling phenomenon.
For example, the Arabic-language reformist website, al-Awan published a book in September, 2009 with the title, “The Muslim in the West.” On 8 September, 2009, it posted a portion of the Introduction to this book giving a brief summary of its contents. The following excerpts detail some of the serious problems that confront Muslims living in the West as they seek to remain faithful to their traditions within a culture that adheres to a totally different worldview.
“It is quite evident that most Islamic states, and especially those of the Arab world, suffer from chronic underdevelopment, violence, and intolerance. Furthermore, they have in recent times, experienced civil wars, ethnic cleansings, confessional strife, and bloody dictatorships which practice barbaric physical torture. Women suffer from discriminatory laws of various degrees, with respect to marriage, divorce, and inheritance. Forced marriages are still tolerated, and when it comes to crimes of honor, it is always the (woman) victim that is punished, while the aggressor goes free!
“Almost daily, new fatwas are issued which advocate violence and hatred directed against non-Muslims; even a Muslim, who happens to disagree with their opinions, becomes a target of their attacks. Some religious leaders have transformed mosques into pulpits that encourage the young to engage in terrorist and suicidal attacks, promising them the prize of martyrdom as the shortest route to Paradise!
“Satellite television stations play a major role in the spread of a culture of hatred through the preaching of Imams who quote Qur’anic texts out of their contexts, in support of their inflammatory sermons. Radical Muslim propagandists carry these messages to the West to influence the young Muslims who were born and brought up there. They push the youth to live within ghettos in total isolation from the larger Western societies. Thus, Islam has been high jacked in the service of political ideologies that seek to bring about totalitarian regimes, through the application of ‘Shari’ah Law, under the rule of Allah.’
“When we take these factors into consideration, we become aware of the many obstacles and challenges that face the Muslim living in the West, such as: How to harmonize Islamic and Western values; how to succeed in education and work; how to re-educate young Muslims with respect to the relations between the sexes; and how to inculcate healthy and sane rules regarding courtship and marriage, that would allow the younger generation to live harmoniously within democratic and open societies.”
The author, having shared with us a portion of the Introduction, ended with these words:
“It is for the sake of young Muslims living in the West, that I decided to write “The Muslim in the West,” armed with my knowledge of Islam, its history, having lived around twenty years in Syria and Lebanon; and for the last forty years, in various Western lands. How I wish that those Muslims now living in the West could free themselves from those medieval and antiquated traditions, and bring about an open, modern, and civilized Islam!”
The Introduction to “The Muslim in the West” in its stark presentation of the cultural milieu that is operative in Muslim societies makes it easy to understand why any Muslim, whether young or old, might experience intellectual and emotional turmoil in varying degrees when living in Western societies. Freedom, while liberating to most people, for many Muslims is fraught with fearful possibilities to them personally as well as causing complications in their belief system. Islam has difficulty tolerating other religions, even in the West where it must do so. The author laments the plight of young Muslims particularly, who, even though born in the West, are not always willing to accept its freedom, equality and tolerance. His desire for them is to free themselves from their religion’s outmoded traditions and evil practices and strive to make it “open, modern and civilized.”
One cannot know all the things covered in a book when it is only the Introduction that is under review. But one can at least appreciate the good start this author makes in frankly setting forth the kind of culture that Islam has created where it is the dominant (and only allowable) religion. It is an exclusive faith claiming to be Allah’s final truth for mankind. Christianity is also an exclusive faith claiming that Christ alone is the way, the truth and the life. The difference between these two exclusive faiths in particular is that Islam seeks to compel faith and Christianity seeks to persuade. The other world religions claiming their own brands of exclusivity have been able to live peaceably with the rest of mankind. This situation has arisen for the most part through the influence of Christianity and the Enlightenment. Islam is not yet at peace with that pervasive influence. Thus any soul heavily indoctrinated with the more intolerant aspects of Islam, whether living in the Umma or in the West, will often view the principles of freedom, equality and tolerance so dear to Westerners, as concepts to be undermined by forcing what they believe is a superior faith upon the whole world.
Missing in the “Introduction” was any reference to the root cause of many of the problems experienced by Muslims everywhere as they interact with the Other. That root cause could be said to reside in the sacred and authoritative texts of Islam themselves: the Qur’an, Hadith, and Sirat (Life of the Prophet.) History has shown how those attempting to enforce such teachings on unbelievers have wrought havoc to their souls and bodies. Examples are too many to even list but 9-11 comes to mind for Americans, and every day in Africa, and the Middle East unbelievers, particularly Christians, are subject to violence and death. It is to be hoped that the author will cover this in the body of the book.
Another aspect of Islam was brought into play about a month after the original article appeared when this telling response to it was posted on al-Awan’s website:
“The problem of young Muslims living in the West is very complex. For them, Islam remains both a national and a religious identity. They have inherited a simplistic and illogical outlook on life from their parents, who are basically illiterate immigrants. Most of them belonged to the poor classes in their original homelands, and are thus a fertile ground for the growth of radical Islamist positions.”
Indeed, how true this is. “Islam remains both a national and a religious identity” for all Muslims wherever they settle outside Daru’l Islam. This basic fact of every true Muslim’s thought world parallels Bernard Lewis’ observation:
“For the Muslim, religion was the core of identity, of his own and therefore of other men’s. The civilized world consisted of the House of Islam, in which a Muslim government ruled, Muslim law prevailed, and non-Muslim communities might enjoy the tolerance of the Muslim state and community provided they accepted the conditions. The basic distinction between themselves and the outside world was the acceptance or rejection of the message of Islam. … The real difference was religion. Those who professed Islam were called Muslims and were part of God’s community, no matter in which country or under what sovereign they lived. Those who rejected Islam were infidels. The Arabic word is kafir, from a root meaning to disbelieve or deny, normally used only of those who disbelieve in the Islamic message and deny its truth.” 2
As long as Muslim immigrants and their children born in the West continue to regard Islam as the core and basis of their identity, they will find it difficult to become fully integrated into the West’s liberal democracies, whether in Europe or in America. At the very least, they need to come to terms with the concept of toleration of the religious beliefs of the Other. Likewise, they need to interact with the “infidels” in their new homelands with all due respect. They have every right in these lands to propagate their faith. But so do others have reciprocal rights to propagate different faiths. There is much that needs to happen before things get better. Too many Mosques have imams who preach hate at the Friday prayer services. Not much has changed over the years from when I used to listen on short wave radio to the Friday sermons from North African or Middle Eastern lands. Then, as now, the contents of these khutbas (official message of the imam) tended to be mostly political, rather than mainly religious or moral. Reformist Muslim intellectuals do draw our attention to the problems that accompany Muslims who have settled in the West, and how change is needed. Yet they remain unable to bring about any major reform of the Islamic homelands, where intolerance and radicalism is on the rise. Thus, if Islamic houses of worship in the West keep “importing” radical imams from these places, we can expect little change in the situation among the Muslim youth in Europe and America. They will remain alienated and prone to intolerance of the Other, even liable to committing acts of violence against them. One can still hope that someday a more grateful attitude will be exhibited by Muslim youths toward the countries that first welcomed their parents and gave them employment and freedom to practice their religion in peace. They still enjoy that freedom as well as even more possibilities to improve their material lives in every respect.
1. The Muslim Discovery of Europe, by Bernard Lewis. W. W. Norton & Company, New York, 1982
Posted on 08/07/2010 2:17 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Disproportionately Compared To What, Exactly?
Here is an article on the BBC website, about Muslims in Birmingham who don't like all those pesky cameras that might record some of them doing things that are against the law.
Note, in the very first sentence of the piece, the second word, the one that comes just after "a": "A disproportionately high concentration of CCTV cameras located in mainly Muslim areas of Birmingham continues to trigger concern from residents."
Why "disproportionately"? Wherefore "disproprtionately?"
6 August 2010
The 218 cameras can record number plates
A disproportionately high concentration of CCTV cameras located in mainly Muslim areas of Birmingham continues to trigger concern from residents. The system will not be dismantled and despite earlier assurances could yet be used for counter-terrorism purposes, West Midlands Police have told the BBC.
They started appearing a few months ago. Ever since then there has been uproar among some Muslims in the city.
At a public meeting this week the crowd started chanting "take them down".
One man shouted: "You've got more cameras than communist China," before walking out in disgust.
Another man said some young men had told him they would tear them down if the police did not remove them.
They sit at the top of grey posts, about 15m (49ft) high. Some are on busy junctions, others on quiet sidestreets used as rat runs.
Aziz Mitha said: "If they wanted to secure the area they should have brought police into the area, but not cameras. They give a 24/7 view."
The 19-year-old has a brand new CCTV camera at the end of his road. It does not just watch and record, it can read and record every car number plate that goes by.
He lives in Sparkhill, a mostly Muslim area in Birmingham. It is one of two areas which have been targeted by a CCTV network set up around the streets.
The cameras have damaged community relations between residents and the police, says Mr Ahmed
Some of the cameras are hidden. There are 218 in all, and they can record pictures and number plates of every car that goes in or out of the areas.
When the cameras first appeared - there had been no public consultation - the police said they were for fighting normal crime, like anti-social behaviour and car crime.
But it turned out more than £3m from a special government anti-terror fund had paid for them.
There is no other residential area in the UK with a concentration of cameras like this.
Eighteen-year-old Zakariah Ahmed is looking for work at the moment. He lives in one of the affected areas.
"If there are 70 hidden cameras now, what makes you say that they won't do it again in six months?" he said.
He thinks it has shattered trust in the police here. By all accounts things had been pretty good over the past few years. But not now.
Zakariah said: "They might even put a camera looking right at your window."
A public review is under way to decide what to do with the cameras. They are covered and not switched on at the moment.
The police say the camera network can help tackle normal crime. Yet critics point out there are areas of Birmingham with higher levels of crime - and fewer Muslims - that do not have anything like this concentration of CCTV cameras.
Continue reading the main story
End Quote Sharon Rowe Assistant Chief Constable
If there was a terrorist incident we'd use every bit of technology possible to solve that crime”
The police admit mistakes were made. They have apologised. Now they talk about "putting it right", but there is deep scepticism among some about the true intentions of the police.
The senior officer in charge of the project has admitted that if and when the cameras are turned on, they will have a counter-terrorism role.
Assistant Chief Constable Sharon Rowe told the BBC: "If there was a terrorist incident we'd use every bit of technology possible to solve that crime."
When asked if the cameras could "prevent" such an incident, she agreed.
Under the new coalition government the tide has turned against CCTV. Tougher regulations are coming. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg wants to end what he has called a "spying culture" in the UK.
In a statement to the BBC, Mr Clegg said the Birmingham cameras were agreed under the previous government.
"This government is serious about protecting civil liberties. In this particular case a public consultation has been announced so that local people can make sure their views are heard."
The police and MI5 uncovered a major terror plot in Birmingham in 2007. These cameras were supposed to help prevent a repeat of that.
Instead they have left many Muslims in Birmingham angry, distrustful and a lot less likely to talk to the police.
Posted on 08/07/2010 4:40 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
A Musical Interlude: Walkin' My Baby Home (Annette Hanshaw)
Posted on 08/07/2010 4:26 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
A Saturday Night Special: Lay Down Your Arms (Anne Shelton)
Posted on 08/07/2010 4:51 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
A Short Introduction To Peoples Of The Caucasus
Shqiptars and Arnauts (albanians)-children of Caucasus
Wednesday, 12. August 2009
The present Shqiptars and Arnauts (Albanians) are from the Caucasus (and Arabia), originally.
Shqiptars claim that they are descendants of Illyrians.
But the Illyrians did not have anything with a Shqiptars.
In the times before Shqiptar Romanticism, there is nothing that would show that the Shqiptars have any notion about the Illyrians.
Caucasian Albania was located on the eastern area of the Caucasus between the Caspian sea and the tips of the mountain ranges.
Medieval writer Magius Patavius,says thay Arnauts-Shiptars were originally from Asia, called them children Caucasus.
More evidence linking Shqiptars to the Caucasus, in the Republic of Azerbaijan, a nation which today claims to be the inheritor of Caucasian Albania.
Let us initially say the fact that the Armenians, Georgians, Rans, Movaknels, Herethians, Leks, Megrels and Caucasians had one father named Thargamos, son of Tharshi, son of Gamer, son of Japheth, son of Noah.
They selected eight of the bravest and most renowned of his sons. First was Haos, second Qarthlos, third Bardos, fourth Movakan, fifth Lek, sixth Heros, seventh Caucas, and eighth Egros.
-First "Illyrian" king was Bardilis.
-name Bard (Brela), it is often in Albania
-Name of Lek (Leko, Leka) is very often in Albania
Mirdat was king of Karthalinia (Georgia)....Mirdita-Shqiptar tribe
Tamara was Queen of Karthalinia (Georgia)...
-Gogo is a very common male name in Georgia and Albania
-Keko in Georgia female and male name in Albania.
-Shqiptars:mother=Nona, and in Georgia is female name.
-Gruzians: mother=deda ;Shqiptars Deda= male name.
Old Albania was known only for wild dogs and baren snow covered mountains, for which it recieved the name Albania by foreigners (Alba=white).
The Caucasian Albanians (also spelled as Alban, Aghvan,Ahgvank, Aghban, and Alpan) were a nation, which, according to the ancient geographer Strabo, consisted of 26 tribes, and the majority was Turkic : (some of tribes: Alwanis/Alpans, Uti, Udins, Gels, Legs, Kryzes, Hinalugs, Chols, Gargars ,Sakas or Shakas,Mazkits/Ishguz's,Abars /Awars ,Bashigirhihi/ Bashkirs,Khazars, Barsiles, Huns, Saragurs, Sabirs, Kuturgurs, Kok-Turks, Kipchaks (todays Kumyk, Nogay, Karachay, and Balkar,) ( some of places: Hereti,Khakheti,Sheki,Kish,Shusha,Derbent…)
Turkish scholars on Caucasian Albania argue that "Albania" means "Country of Alpes" (where Alpes are one of the names for Albans or mountains), but also says that "in history Albans have once more came out as the most ancient Turkic people....bowing to the Sun”
In the republic of Georgia, in the Caucasus, on the terriory of the former Caucasian Albania, from where the Avar Khanate once had its capital, there is a village named: "Arnauti".
This is the name by which Serbs, Greeks, Turks, Macedonians and Montenegrin Serbs refer to Albanians in their respective langauges.
There is also village in Georgia named "Bushati" - which is the name of an Albanian tribe ("fis") around Lake Skadar.
There are three villages named: "Geguti", "Gegeni" and "Gegi".
"Ghegheni" is the name designated to Albanians who live north of the Shkumbi River in Albania proper.
Gegi Gora 39N 45E 2512 8241
Right on the border with the Republic of Georgia in THE CAUCASUS.
(gora - mountainous forest: trans: gegi gora = mountainous forest of Gegs).
We can look for "Geg" in the western Caucasus in modern Georgia...
The word "gege" in the Georgian language means absolutely nothing, however, "gegali" means "goat".
In albanian a goat is called "lia" (dhia), so it si totaly possible that this may originate from later part of the word "gega-LI" From "gegali" "gegeria" could have been derived, since according to Neo-Greek phonetics, the "l" became "r".
Thus Gegegria would mean "Goat herders" and "Geg" would be the shortneded form or deminutive.
This name is appropriate for the main occupation of the population in these regions where there were plenty of goats from which milk and meat were the main source.
Wealth was counted in goats.
The Caucasian origins of the Gegs can be traced to ancient Georgia in the Caucasus where there once existed a land in antiquity called GOGARI, later changed to GOGARENA.
....when the Armenian people lost its statehood and lands, to make it possible to join foreign lands, the Albanian kingdom, i. e. the lands of historical Georgia (Gogarena).
Stephanus, an ancient author, expressly says, that the inhabited district on the south side was called Gogarena. "
Posted on 08/07/2010 4:58 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Donald F. Tovey On The Music Of Lindsay Lohan
You can't have taken that seriously.
Posted on 08/07/2010 5:02 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Australia, Australia, Australia
Read about the "Learning From One Another" program proposed for Australian schools, with its rosy view of Islam, and the attempt by others to petition to prevent such a mad policy from being implemented, at the Australian Islamist Monitor, right here.
Read about an Islamic website promoted by the Australian government here.
Read about Australia, Australia, Australia here.
Posted on 08/07/2010 8:21 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
A Cinematic Interlude: The Student And The Celtic Poet (Tracey Ullman)
Posted on 08/07/2010 9:34 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald
Saturday, 7 August 2010
Thank God And Ganesha
Ganesha has a role to play in Kundalini yoga, which has been mentioned before at NER here, and here. .
Posted on 08/07/2010 10:37 PM by Hugh Fitzgerald