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Tuesday, 30 December 2008

From the BBC:

Former Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin was beaten by medieval prince Alexander Nevsky in a poll held by a TV station to find the greatest Russian.

Stalin came third, despite being responsible for the deaths of millions of Soviets in labour camps and purges.

Alexander Nevsky fought off European invaders in the 13th century to preserve a united Russia.

In second place was reformist Prime Minister Pyotr Stolypin, who was assassinated in 1911.

More than 50 million people voted by phone, the internet or via text messages in the poll held by Rossiya, one of Russia's biggest television stations.

The voting took place over six months as 500 original candidates were whittled down to a final 12.

Stalin - an ethnic Georgian - was riding high for many months and was in the number one slot at one point until the show's producer appealed to viewers to vote for someone else, says the BBC's Richard Galpin in Moscow.

Stalin sent millions of people to their deaths in the work camps of the Gulag. Millions more perished in political purges or during the forced collectivisation of farms during his rule from the 1920s to his death in 1953.

Many in Russia do still revere Stalin for his role during World War II when the Soviet Union defeated the forces of Nazi Germany.

But now there is a much broader campaign to rehabilitate Stalin and it seems to be coming from the highest levels of government, says our correspondent.

"We now have to think very seriously, why the nation chooses to put [Joseph] Stalin in third place," said actor and film director Nikita Mikhalkov, one of the contest's judges, after the results were released.

The Chinese still revere Mao, too, showing that people get the government they deserve. The vote, and the way it is reported, also shows that Communism has got away with it. Just imagine the outcry if Hitler were voted "third-best German".

Update: Enoch sensibly reminds us that Stalin wasn't even Russian - he was Georgian. (Never shake thy Gori locks at me.) And Hitler was Austrian. And the British Royal Family is German.

Posted on 12/30/2008 9:35 AM by Mary Jackson
Comments
30 Dec 2008
Send an emailEnoch

Um, but Stalin wasn't a Russian, he was a Georgian...



30 Dec 2008
Hugh Fitzgerald

To describe Stolypin as a "reformer" is hardly enough. He was not exactly in the camp of "Bekhi" (Milestones), not in the camp of the Kadets (Constitutional Democrats), of Professor Miliukov. He was cruel in his treatment of Jews, and his assassination in Kiev was a result of that cruelty. But perhaps Russians voted for him without knowing much about him, but thinking of him as a representative of the ancien regime. They might better have voted for Miliukov himself, or for Kerensky. And better still would have been for them to sensibly avoid their political class, where the wrong people have always come out on top, with the outcome wittily summued up by the phrase "Za Mamaem -- Mamaj" (One Mamai follows another).

They might have chosen, they should have chosen, Pushkin, or Tolstoy, or Chekhov. They made a mistake. They chose Aleksandr Nevsky, and Stolypin, and Stalin. What a galere!



30 Dec 2008
Send an emailreactionry
Stalin, The Cream Of Russification?
Or: Speak, Menshevik 
 
For all I know, Vladimir eliminated both himself and Fyodor with his references to "dusty" Dostoyevsky.
Meanwhile, the velvet glove of Mr. Fitzgerald, without so much as dusting off the vellum rich as never rusticated country cream, continues to amaze as it piles it on, Hanover fist*.

* OMG 13,600 Googlewhacks





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