Thursday, 14 July 2011
From Australia's ABC 'World Today' program, Sarah Clarke reporting.
'Pirates disrupting climate change research'.
'Piracy in the Indian Ocean is hampering the efforts of climate change researchers to the point where they have had to call in the Australian Navy.
'Pirate activity off the coast of Somalia has increased dramatically over recent years, so much so that a quarter of the Indian Ocean is now considered a "no-go" area.
'While it is a major problem for commercial shipping (and that is an understatement - CM) it is also frustrating for scientists.
'Oceanographers and meteorologists say that being locked out of the region has put a hole in their data.
(And for those reading this who regard 'climate change' as a scare-mongering hoax, and will respond, 'so what, who cares if the scientists can't read the ocean temperatures?' - I will point out that being able to read ocean temperatures and air pressure is necessary in order to have any sort of idea of how the next Monsoon and typhoon season, for example, is going to pan out. So the Muslim pirates' preventing scientists from gathering data from a very large part of one of the world's major oceans is NOT a good thing. - CM)
'Since January 2010, there have been about 280 reported incidents of piracy off the coast of Somalia and as the activity escalates, the exclusion zone for shipping expands.
(How soon will it be before these Somali Muslims start carrying out kidnap-and-hold-to-ransom raids on the tourist islands of Mauritius or the Seychelles? How soon before they start raiding coastal villages in southern India, or in Madagascar? - CM)
'The CSIRO's Ann Thresher says a quarter of the Indian Ocean is currently off limits.
That is an awful lot of ocean that these Somali Muslim pirates have, effectively, turned into their gang 'turf', not having encountered anyone sufficiently bold and ruthless enough to stop them in their tracks. - CM
"Pirates are a big problem at the moment for anybody who needs to make any sort of observations in the area of the north-west Indian Ocean", she said.
"They're ranging so far up from Somalia that we're having difficulties getting instruments into that area so it's a good quarter of the Indian Ocean [that] is a no-go area.
'Dr Thresher says research vessels have been pursued by pirates on a number of occasions.
'Yes, there have been research vessels in that area that had to make a quick retreat - in one case, they actually hired an armed escort for the research vessel. That gets very expensive, and we just don't put scientists at risk like that", she said.
'So scientists are turning to the Navy to help solve the problem.
The Navy, of course, having a pretty strong interest in accurate weather forecasting, both long and short-range. - CM
'The United States and Australia have come to the rescue in a joint military and research effort. They are now planning to deliver the floats which scientists hope will fill the data hole.
So long as the mindless Mohammedan vandals don't start stealing and/ or vandalising the floats and the delicate equipment that they contain. - CM
'Dr Thresher says the Navy's involvement is vital to the success of the project.
"We're using the Navy to sort of protect our instruments and get them into the right area. We're also asking the Royal Australian Navy to take nine of our floats up into that area on the next rotation to the Gulf", she said.
"Now we really need to rely on these guys and we'll be using them probably much more than we ever have - it's the only way to get instruments into the area."
'The pirates are hampering research that is crucial in the global understanding of weather forecasting.
'The CSIRO is part of an international research team which uses thousands of robotic floats.
'They are dropped into the ocean to provide near real-time observations, and for the the last year scientists have not been able to access the data they need.
'Oceanographer Dr Susan Wijffels leads the scientific team, and says the data is of particular importance to Australia.
"So the Indian Ocean as a whole is very important for Australian climate and that area in particular is where there's a lot of evaporation that happens to fuel the Asian monsoon and not having data there I think is problematic for predictiions of what the monsoons are going to be", she said.
"Then in the longer term especially around the ocean conditions, that area is one of the players in setting up and controlling what happens to a phenomenon called the Indian Ocean Dipole.
Which phenomenon has been discovered to be at least as important for Australia, in terms of seasonal rainfall and whether it will be more or less than average, as is the La Nina/ El Nino pattern in the Pacific. - CM
"We really do need to have good global coverage and in particular for Australian rainfall forecasting, seasonal forecasting, we need good coverage of the tropical Indian and the tropic Pacific [oceans], so right now half the tropical Indian Ocean is out of bounds for us, so it's a big problem, both for weather forecasting but also for that longer term climate seasonal forecasting".
Strictly speaking, the ABC's original headline was misleading: although the data gathered by these floats will go into the ever-accumulating pile of data, gathered over time, that is being pored over and analysed by climate scientists, the main thrust of this article is that because of the activity of the Somali Muslim pirates, it is short-term and seasonal weather forecasting - being able to say, for example, with a fair degree of certainty, whether the West Australian wheat belt is going to get good rain this winter, or not - that is being stymied. The Muslim pirates are preventing the weathermen from doing their job. - CM
Posted on 07/14/2011 5:15 AM by Christina McIntosh
14 Jul 2011
being able to read ocean temperatures and air pressure is necessary in order to have any sort of idea of how the next Monsoon and typhoon season, for example, is going to pan out.
Except I don't care about that, either. That affects India, Bangladesh, Burma, and other countries I couldn't care less about. India has a Navy -- if they want scientists to predict the monsoon for them, they can get that Navy to work cleansing the ocean of pirates. If they don't care enough to have their Navy do that, why should I care more about it than they do?
If it affects Australia, why isn't the RAN hanging pirates, burning their ships, and leveling their lairs? Oh, the RAN is constrained by absurd political correctness. Get over your suicidal liberalism and you'll solve the pirate problem in a jiffy.
How soon will it be before these Somali Muslims start carrying out kidnap-and-hold-to-ransom raids on the tourist islands of Mauritius or the Seychelles? How soon before they start raiding coastal villages in southern India, or in Madagascar?
Another one to file in the "who cares" box. It's not like India doesn't have a terrorism problem already, and again, if India doesn't want pirate raids they can get their Navy to work suppressing the pirates.
In any event, seasonal weather forecasting is largely done by satellites, which are hardly affected by Somali pirates.
14 Jul 2011
So there is a link between number of pirates and global warming.
14 Jul 2011
Lugo: despite your claims about everything being able to be done by satellites these days, it seems that the data gathered by sensors on the ocean surface is still necessary and important enough to oceanographers and other scientists of their ilk, that they are getting both worried and cranky at NOT being able to obtain it from a significant portion of the world's oceanic surface. You are not an oceanographer. You are not a meteorologist. If scientists say they need the data from these floats, then I tend to assume that they do. We Aussies - because of living in a place which has one of the most wildly variable climates on earth - have some of the best people in this field, in the world.
And are you accusing *me* of 'suicidal liberalism'. Why? Merely because I care, for example, about my fellow non-Muslims in India and certain other non-Muslim countries bordering on the Indian Ocean? If they get accurate forecasts and are able to plant their crops accordingly, they will do better. I *want* India to have the human and physical resources to withstand the Jihad. I want little East Timor, which is Catholic, to survive and thrive, because it guards my back doorstep; it's a beachhead of dar al Harb.
Are you blaming *me* personally for the current failure of the Australian or the Indian navies to tackle these pirates as they should be tackled? Good god, you are talking as if it is all my fault that my government - to whom I have written many, many fact-packed letters on the subject of islam in the past five years since I became properly informed myself - is not giving our Navy authority to squash these piratical Somali Muslims as they need to be squashed. Well, you're American (I assume): perhaps I should blame YOU, you personally, for the dangerous stupidities of President Obama, and sneer at you? YOUR navy is currently doing no more than mine - or that of India - to crush the pirates. Here's a deal: I pester my politicians, you pester yours, and neither of us, in the meantime, should blame the other for the present failure of both our Navies to blow Somali Muslim pirate dhows out of the water.
If you read my 'asides', you would surely have seen my remark that the only reason these pirates have managed to prevent the free operation of both commerce and science across one-quarter of the Indian Ocean - an achievement damaging to the world economy and to the pursuit of knowledge of the natural world - is because they have not yet met anyone bold or ruthless enough to stop them in their tracks. Does that indicate that I *approve* of the current absence of bold, ruthless actiion on the part of ANY western or other free non-Muslim nation that uses those sea lanes?
I am doing what I can to try to persuade my government that Islam is a problem and that people like the Somali Muslim pirates are going to have to be dealt with, summarily It is - as it is in EVERY country in the non-Muslim world - like trying to roll enormous rocks uphill.
This is not a 'so what'? story.
I thought it worth posting because it is one more example of the way in which Islam - the behaviour prompted by Islam - stifles human progress and wellbeing. These pirates are damaging the *world* economy and they are also impeding the pursuit of knowledge.
I saw a modern manifestation of what happened when Islam seized control of the Mediterranean Shipping Lanes, or of the Silk Road.
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