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Thursday, 30 November 2006
I'm not sure. I think malapropisms are more the fault of the speaker than mondegreens are the fault of the hearer. Mondegreens generally arise from songs, which very often make as much sense if not more the wrong way as the right way. There could well be a Lady Mondegreen. It isn't as silly to think there is one as to suggest that she is the pineapple of perfection.

To put it another way, many makers of mondegreens often speak or write good English and would never make a malapropism. They might, however, spake a moonerism.

Posted on 11/30/2006 7:11 AM by Mary Jackson
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30 Nov 2006
Send an emailRebecca Bynum
"Mondegreens generally arise from songs"

four hundred children and a crop in the field...

30 Nov 2006
Hugh Fitzgerald
Yes, the verbal incomprehension of Mrs. Malaprop and all her tribe is larger, on the Spooner scale (named such after Count Marrowsky, the first to use it to weigh and find wanting), than the verbal incomprehension of the listener guilty of what I continue to insist can be called "aural malapropism." That is, I continue to insist until a better, possibly pre-existing term, is either brought to my attention or invented for my approval. Both things � Malapropism and Aural Malapropism, express a unilateral mistake. In the first case it is the Speaker who makes the mistake, and the listener who recognizes the mistake. In the second case it is the Listener who makes the mistake, and the Speaker (or the Text, if the text has ears, the way little pitchers do, or used to) who recognizes the mistake, though speakers, like Jesting Pilate, tend not to stay for an answer.

Both are mistakes involving sound. Mrs. Malaprop confuses �alligators� and �allegories.� And �odious� and �odorous.� The person who hears �laid him on the green� as �Lady Mondegreen� similarly is homophonically discombobulated, and in attempting to overcome phonetic distress, assigns the wrong words to the right sounds. Perhaps I should have written phonetic and phonemic distress.

In both cases there is insufficient understanding of the language. Confusion Gracelessly Abounding. For all I know, the Malapropism of Mrs. Malaprop begins, possibly, in a pre-existing Aural Malapropism: she heard someone say the phrase �comparisons are odious� and thought she heard �comparisons are odorous� and then repeated the latter later. And then there was that intrepid Englishwoman, a lady traveler famous for having sailed all the way down the Nile beyond Ptolemais and Apollinopolis Magna to the First Cataract at Assuan, and whose public lecture she had eagerly attended, and came away convinced she had heard mentioned riparian �allegories� rather than �alligators� spotted basking near Giza.

These are Things to Think About. These Are Questions for Study and Discussion.

But on one thing no study and no discussion is, by now, necessary. Both the quite (at times) contrary Mary and I share a virtue and also a fault. We both yield to no one in our desire to yield to no one.

30 Nov 2006
Send an emailMary Jackson
No - if I were wrong, I would certainly acknowledge it. Nobody is more willing than I am to admit to being wrong; it's simply that I never get the opportunity.

30 Nov 2006
Send an emailReactionry
Eric A. Jong?/
Reverend Moonerism/

Would you believe[and please keep your "No's" out of my busyness]that I once hosted a dinner party for some English couples from South Africa? It was like a scene out of "Breaker Morant" -the men recited their own poetry and sang virile, patriotic songs. However the louder the drunken wife of a barrister said, "Well-hung, your sonor!" the more inclined was I to count the Spoonerisms.
Or that I once played matchmaker*(the Yiddish word for this can be toughly ranslated** as, "Pitch a tent, yah?")to Reverend Moon and a pretty author? After hearing her complain that the terrorist bombing of half the South Korean cabinet on the order of the leader of the Nooks had given her a "fear of flying" the *very* tipsy spiritual leader of the Merkit*** Kingdom muttered, "Him Jong kill".****

*Sigh- I succeeded only in making the atmosphere a little sulphurous
**see "Rance", as in what happens when good French wines go wildly bad- or the Pakistani Muslim cleric, Ranseed
***not to be confused with the German pop group, "Arminius' Hermits"
****Depending upon whether girls will be boys this may be mistaken two ways

30 Nov 2006
Send an emailgreenmamba

An aural primalospasm can sometimes be caused by deslyxia.

Wonderful strings of conscionableness here faux. You put my bumble heifers je t'aime.



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