Friday, 22 February 2013
From the BBC H/T Ivan
City University in London has been accused of discrimination by a group of Muslim students after it closed a dedicated room used for Friday prayers.
A group of students have formed Muslim Voices on Campus, calling on the university to reverse its decision. The group said it was being "unjustly targeted".
City said it acted because students had refused to submit the proposed content of sermons to the university before prayers to check its "appropriateness".
Wasif Sheikh, who leads the group, said: "We feel we are being unjustly targeted. All of our sermons are open, we welcome all students and all staff. But when you start submitting your sermons to be monitored and scrutinized then there's a chance for it to be dictated what's allowed and what's not allowed. We, as students, don't accept that."
Three years ago, the counter extremism think tank the Quilliam Foundation released a report on the sermons at Friday prayers at City University, in central London.
In one sermon, which was recorded, the speaker said: "The Islamic state teaches to cut the hand of the thief. Yes it does. And it also teaches us to stone the adulterer. When they tell us that, the Islamic state tells us and teaches us to kill the apostate, yes it does."
Dr Usama Hasan from the Quilliam Foundation said: "If there was no past history at the university, I think what the students are saying would sound extremely reasonable. However, there has been quite a vicious and nasty history there. They have to deal with that and give a bit more to the university..."
A statement from the university said it needed to be sure of the "appropriateness" of what was being discussed in sermons as authorized university events. It said it also needed to be assured that all "students eligible to deliver" prayers and sermons "are considered equally and given the opportunity to do so". The statement went on: "The university could not continue to condone an activity taking place on its premises where it cannot exercise reasonable supervision."
Posted on 02/22/2013 2:01 AM by Esmerelda Weatherwax
22 Feb 2013
The university wants to see that all students "eligible" to deliver prayers and sermons are given equal consideration. Who decides who is eligilbe, and who is not? Is the university going to bat for females, long suppressed under Islam, who are relegated to the back of praying men, and aren't allowed to lead prayers? Or is the university hoping that so-called "moderate" Muslims will be allowed a say?
It will be interesting to see how this situation unfolds.
22 Feb 2013
I'd go much farther than just closing down the prayer room.
I think that those attending it should be investigated and any found guilty of incitement to murder or expressing virulent anti-semitism should be expelled.
23 Feb 2013
Those who attended or spoke at that 'prayer room' - den of Mohammedan Mobsters - and who are found to have incited to murder and the expression of murderous Jew-hatred, should not merely be expelled from the University.
They should be deported from the UK, and sent back to dar al Islam.
In the case of those among them who are foreigners to start with, and only present in the UK on 'student' visas, or as visiting 'academics', that should be easy.
In the case of those who are immigrants and have obtained residency, that too should not be very difficult even other present-day law; expel, and deport, stripped of their residency papers, back to their country of origin.
In the case of those who got in as 'immigrants'/ 'asylum seekers'/ 'refugees' and have acquired British passports and are nominally 'citizens', a thorough investigation into the circumstances of their getting into the UK in the first place and getting hold of that citizenship, might well expose irregularities, maybe even outright fraud; in that case, said citizenship should evaporate instantly, and ...out they go.
It will be more difficult, under present circumstances, to evict those who were born in the UK to Muslim invaders/ colonists; they can certainly be expelled from the university, and be blacklisted, so that there may be no possibility of their being admitted to any other university within the free non-Muslim world; but there should begin to be demands, from non-Muslims, that such 'citizens' who engage in incitement to mass murder - and most notably and horribly, in Nazi-style incitement to mistreatment and murder of Jews, in Britain - should be identified as Traitors and Seditionists, and suitable punishment - such as Lifelong Exile (to the lands of their Muslim parents or grandparents) and being declared Outlaw - be brought down upon them.
Out with them!
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