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Thursday, 10 September 2009
Does This Discovery Make London The Oldest Continuously Inhabited City On The Planet?

Over at Science Daily is a very interesting article about the archaeology of London. It seems that London might have some claim to be the world’s oldest inhabited city site!

London's oldest timber structure has been unearthed by archaeologists from Archaeology South-East ... It was found during the excavation of a prehistoric peat bog adjacent to Belmarsh Prison in Plumstead, Greenwich ... Radiocarbon dating has shown the structure to be nearly 6,000 years old and it predates Stonehenge by more than 500 years.
 
The structure consisted [sic] of a timber platform or trackway found at a depth of 4.7m ... beneath two metres of peat adjacent to an ancient river channel ... Previously, the oldest timber structure in Greater London was the timber trackway in Silvertown, which has been dated to 3340-2910 BC, c. 700 years younger.
 
[...]
 
Mark Stevenson, Archaeological Advisor at English Heritage said: "The discovery of the earliest timber structure in London is incredibly important. The timber structure is slightly earlier in date than the earliest trackways excavated in the Somerset Levels, including the famous 'Sweet Track' to Glastonbury, which provide some of the earliest physical evidence for woodworking in England.
 
[...]
           
Archaeology South-East Senior Archaeologist Diccon Hart, who directed the excavation, commented: "The discovery of the earliest timber structure yet found in the London Basin is an incredibly exciting find. It is testament to the hard work and determination of those who toiled under very difficult conditions to unearth a rare and fascinating structure almost 6,000 years after it was constructed."
 
So, six thousand years ago there were people living in the London Basin and building structures to make life easier for themselves. Four thousand six-hundred years before the addled brain of a deranged, violent desert Prophet called Mohammed conceived his nasty and evil take on the world one of the pre-cursor peoples of we modern English were co-operating to build a trackway in order to ease the daily burden of necessary toil.
 
It’s only a small wonder, but a significant one, nonetheless, that believers in radical Islam simply dismiss everything before the Prophet. If they didn’t do so then that evil Prophet’s claim to be the beginning of all things simply wouldn’t hold water for them! Doesn’t that put things into perspective!
 
You can find Plumstead and Belmarsh Prison using this map. Or this one by zooming in.
 
By the way, Diccon Hart is a highly respected Archaeologist with an impressive CV. Currently he is a Senior Archaeologist working at Archaeology South-East and his degree is from University College London, Institute of Archaeology. He specialises in the Archaeology of Lowland Britain and you can find his details here.
 
Mark Stevenson’s credentials can be can be found here. He currently works for English Heritage, which is far less fun than its website would lead you to believe – although Mr. Stevenson, in common with almost all the archaeologist whom I know, probably enjoys being up to his oxters in mud and ancient middens! Mr. Stevenson is also a Member of the Institute of Field Archaeologists and was heavily involved in ensuring the very careful recording of one of the recorded four, twelfth century, wooden tidal mills which was discovered at Greenwich Wharf; and all of them were recorded as being in operation, presumably in their earlier forms, in the Domesday Book (1086AD) – and this one was uncovered from the silt at the wharf (in ridiculously mucky conditions) by a Museum of London Archaeology field team earlier this year.
 
A perception is developing in Britain, a perception which I fight against for it is completely untrue, that somehow there was no knowledge, no achievement, in our society before Islam and the Islamic world was encountered by us. Such discoveries as these give the lie to that. Britain has, and always has had – for thousands of years – an innovative technological society which far outranks the simple, superstitious, dead hand of Islam and its limited and primitively superstitious approach to the natural world and its phenomena. There is a deliberate attempt in the UK today to reset Year Zero for the human species to the years of the life of the evil Prophet of Islam and that is a complete lie – a total untruth. I refuse to let that factual error pass unchallenged. Thousands of years before Islam was manufactured by the psychopathic mind of the probably fictional Mohammed character, Europe was innovating and, thereby, easing as much as it could at the time, the lives of its inhabitants and hundreds of years after that supposed Prophet’s supposed birth – long before any one of the ordinary folk in western Europe had even heard about day to day life in the societies ruled by the dark and heavy hand of Islam – technological progress was taking place at a pace which far outstripped that of the fatalistic, Islam believing societies.
 
So I ask you, why do we persist in denigrating our own achievements and allowing the lie that is Islam to enter our consciences? Please, let us remember today, that we have a history that vastly predates the lie that is Islam.
Posted on 09/10/2009 6:05 AM by John M. Joyce
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10 Sep 2009
dumbledoresarmy

 John - have you ever read Charles Williams' eerie novel, 'All Hallows' Eve'?  It was written before the true end of WWII; the time of the story is immediately postwar; the setting - London. It is as much about London as it is about anything else.

In the following excerpt, a young man looks at his artist friend's painting of London.

"It [the painting] was a part of London after a raid - he thought, of the City proper, for a shape on the right reminded him of St Paul's.  At the back were a few houses, but the rest of the painting was a wide stretch of desolation. The time was late dawn; the sky was clear; the light came, it seemed at first, from the yet unrisen sun behind the single group of houses.

"the light was the most outstanding thing in the painting; presently, as Richard looked, it seemed to stand out from the painting, and almost to dominate the room itself. At least it so governed the painting that all other details and elements were concealed within it. They floated in that imaginary light as the earth does in the sun's.

"The colors were so heightened that they were almost at odds...

"The usual slight distinction between shape and hue seemed wholly to have vanished. Color was more intensely image than it can usually manage to be...A beam of wood painted amber was more than that; it was light which had become amber in order to become wood.

"All that massiveness of color was led by delicate gradations...towards the hidden sun; the eye encountered the gradations in their outward passage and moved inwards towards their source.

"It was then that the style of the painting came fully into its own. The spectator became convinced that the source of that light was not only in that hidden sun; as, localised, it certainly was. 'Here lies the east; does not the day break here?'

"The day did, but the light did not.  The eye, nearing that particular day, realized that it was leaving the whole fullness of the light behind.  It was everywhere in the painting - concealed in houses and in their projected shadows, lying in ambush in the Cathedral, opening in the rubble, vivid in the vividness of the sky.  It would everywhere have burst through, had it not chosen rather to be shaped into forms, and to restrain and change its greatness in the colours of those lesser forms.  It was universal, and lived.

'Richard said at last - I wish you could have shown the sun.

'Yes', said Jonathan [the painter]. 'Why?'

'Because then I might have known whether the light's in the sun or the sun's in the light...'

'...you approve?'

"It's far and away the best thing you've done', Richard answered. "it's almost the only thing you've done - now you've done it.  It's like a modern Creation of the World, or at least, a Creation of London.  How did you come to do it?'

"Sir Joshua Reynolds,' said Jonathan, 'Once alluded to 'common observation and a plain understanding' as the source of all art.  I should like to think that I agreed with Sir Joshua here".

 



10 Sep 2009
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An E-Mote Icon
Or: A Prostitute In Desuetude?
Or: Thames Up!*
Or: Not-So-Little Miss Muckety Muck
Or: Hard Pounding Off & Boring, Gentle Johns
Or: More "Gin Lane Is In My Ears And In My Eyes **
Or: Will The Sun Set On The Empire State Building?***
Or: By Your Leavings, M'Luds
 
Like any long-in-the-tooth metropolis, I'm happy to see wood, especially, in my case, good English wood.  But this nearly six thousand year old beam stuck in the muck of me eye - does it make me look, well, old?  
 
Aye Laddies, so many a time 'as me 'eart been broken whilst "a river runs through it" - so many "an affair to remember" ('ere apologizing to little Miss New Amsterdam)  - "the nearest thing* to" Severn.
 
Cacklingly Yours,
London
 
[O.K.; so it's me; dog walking - or walkies - as in leavings on NER's commodius vicus - R.]
 
 
* nearest thing - or as the Duke of Wellington has been misquoted, "a close-run thing" with respect to the Waterloo Games in which Bonnie took home a second place ribbon, or, not to put too fine a pint [sic]** onnit, as in may or might be the case with wood, we're talking length here.  Boring that in mind, what is the nearest, closest running or penultimate longest running thing? A clee - I mean - clue: Neither blogger Tina (not to be confused with the "Talking Tina" of The Twilight Zone) nor a former U.S. Senator (not to confused with Hustler's Chester The Molester) should have a lott [sic] of trouble with the third.
 
**
 


10 Sep 2009
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Raising Cane
Or: Of Weasels & Nebelwerfers
Or: Buffalo Soldiers
 
Lest any Jihad Readers take heart from my post above, let them take the time to read Mary's (btw., I hope that her hiatus is not permanent) post in the link above.
 
The Gentle Reader may or might take heart in such stark and simple declarations as Esmerelda Weatherwax's Britons will defend not just our streets but our homes, our way of life and our families’ futures with every weapon at our disposal.
( see: "Saudi Gazette gets the wrong end of the cane")  http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/22904 
 
-which also gives hope that Poplar & Canning Town* won't become known as say, Popular Caning Town -where not only are protestors bloodied in the streets but Muslims who run afoul of their foul laws are punished according to Sharia "law."
 
Muslims would be well advised (not that I'm not in favor of giving them worst advice possible -other than to become apostates) to remember, as is often noted by VDH, that the West, when not engaged in the supreme folly of "nation building" before a nation is utterly prostrate, has been rather good at waging war for the past few millennia.  They (the Muslims) and we should also remember that Germany, even under a monster such as Hitler, and Russia, even under monsters such as Stalin, have been part of the West, and as such, no mean practitioners of diplomacy by other means.
 
JMJ was understandably convulsed by  “...suddenly, scores of Buffalos carrying hundreds of amphibious Weasels appeared on the shore...”  but I'll wager that the sight gave our enemies a case of the screaming meemies (also known as "moaning minnie"**):
 
 
 
I trust that the above isn't taken as something akin to an obsession with Nazi memorabilia.  For those wishing to balance the National Socialist's Nebelwerfer with the Red rocket's glare of the International Socialists, here's a Stalin's Organs Recital (previously posted, I think):
 
 
And just for Hugh:
 
 
 
 


11 Sep 2009
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Dumbledoresarmy,

Strangely, I have to admit to having read that opus. The title of my NER published work at http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/22922 was an indirect homage to that very work. I twisted the meaning of his words and works somewhat in that short story – my un-dead were vampires not two dead, ghostly women sisters – but I hope that I amused thereby – and I hope that I shed a little light (as I see it), by using the vampirical literary device in order to explore, lightly and with humour I hope, the fine line between the living and the dead and the un-dead - can we be absolutely sure that Williams’ ghostly women were not, in some sense, vampirical? The use of a convent as the scene of the crime was supposed to be a tribute by me to the two ghostly women’s seemingly pointless, but wonderfully spiritually pure with rewards, existence. My setting of the story in London was a further, indirect, homage to Charles W.S. Williams.
 
I presume, I’m certain of, the fact that you must be familiar with the site at http://www.charleswilliamssociety.org.uk/index.html . Thank you kindly for your comments. It is a lovely experience when broad and well-educated readers such as you obviously are, see the connections and reinforce my faith in our shared culture – despite the fact that we live on opposite sides of the world.
 
Oh, of course, my short story didn’t follow his model exactly for I was making a different point, lighter and more amusing – mere entertainment – from that which he made (the continuance of love and all its natures and persisting faith rewarded). But then again, perhaps he was making the same points and I simply failed to see them.
 
Of course, my favourite work by Williams is his novel War in Heaven. He is part of my canon of greatness, and thank you so much for reminding me of him and driving me back to my bookshelves.


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