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Sorry, geriatric adolescent, but the woman’s actions, while not exactly the picture of prudencw, don’t come even remotely close to justifying her life being ended.
One of the problems bad police departments are often said to have is a “cowboy culture”, numerous episodes besides this one demonstrate that this clearly an issue with ICE. The decisionmaking of those agents was inappropriate for the situation and stupid, as are you.
Do you see anyone refusing to get out of their cars when asked by the police in places like Malaysia or Thailand or Singapore? No!
Because the people are smart enough to know that authorities are in place for a reason. They keep order in society and the culture is to obey them.
In a gun society like the States ,enforcement officers are always in danger of being shot themselves.
America, for all its faults, is a place where you get due process, and the start of this due process is obeying the lawful commands of law enforcement officers.
There’s no need to call me stupid or hurl insults.
But, I feel compelled to hurl one back, likely you are one of the intellectually challenged members of the population who thinks it’s clever to scream at and provoke someone who’s pointing a submachine gun at you.
Dear Geriatric Adolescent, you speak of how things are in other parts of the world. It might interest you to know that in the years you’ve been living an easy, carefree existence in a first world country, where your biggest worry is your gas bill and your main pastime sitting around complaining about the stick in your neighbor’s eye, I spent some of those years living in some rather lawless places. Places where the rules were made by masked bullies carrying assault rifles, and that you would never have the guts to travel to and would piss yourself if you found yourself in.
In many parts of the world, including where I’ve spent time, yes, driving away from a checkpoint or disobeying what we’ll call the Law would get you filled with lead. But not, it might surprise you to learn, in the United States of America. You see, the first principle American customs are built on is humanity towards one’s fellow citizens. Respect for their right to life and liberty, even if they’re naive liberals.
For this reason, law enforcement in America doesn’t kill people for running away from them. If you believe that that they should, then you are the fool, not me.
You can take your irrelevant preaching, and your flippant, juvenile post about the death of someone who didn’t deserve to die, and shove them where the sun don’t shine.
You’d better up the medication! The dosage you’re on at the moment leads you to false assumptions
I grew up in one of the most violent slums in the UK , where they played tag with axes.
I spent months in the remote villages of Papua New Guinea , where they blockade the roads , drag you out of the car and chop you to pieces with a machete if they so wish.
Not because you’ve done anything wrong but just because they can.
You have to travel with an armed guard/ village spy and you have to travel at top speed just to get through.
And guess what? My pants were completely dry!
I reiterate my 78 year old “juvenile opinion; if the police in America tell you to get out of the car…. get out of the effin’ car!
and I hate to say it but this is my final word on the debate
For a guy with the handle “a moderate” you seem like a nasty piece of work.
I’m sorry, I’m sure stories of an exotic place like Papua New Guinea are impressive to fellow westerners who have never left North America or Europe, but telling me you’ve visited a Third World country, where you had plenty of people looking after you, doesn’t really do anything for me. Being “chopped to pieces” you say, how often did that happen? Evidently not often enough to, by to your own account, stop life from going on. Or deter you, a foreigner and therefore particularly vulnerable person, from traveling the country. Or your brother from residing there.
More importantly, the experience you’re invoking doesn’t seem to have taught you anything. I’ll reiterate my non-juvenile opinion, in the United States of America we consider the police killing someone simply for attempting to flee them to be reckless and cruel. This belief is reflected in the written policies of our law enforcement, including the Department of Homeland Security’s Policy on the Use of Force (you might want to take a glance at Heading III, section A. Respect for Human Life and B. De-Escalation, before checking out VI, “DHS LEOs may use deadly force only when the LEO has a reasonable belief of an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury”, neither or which being clipped by the side of a car one has approached, and staying on one’s feet afterwards, counts as.)
At any other agency in America, that ICE agent’s actions would result in investigation and near-certain punishment. It likely won’t at ICE because of the cowboy culture encouraged by this administration, which has caused many other violent incidents, and ICE to look like a force imported from a Third World country.
Irrespective of the mistakenness of her actions, your sarcastically blaming the victim, who committed no violence, for her own death makes you the jerk, not me.
Go live in Madang for twelve months, on an average local’s income and with no paid guides smoothing over problems and getting you away from trouble, and then come brag to me about how you aren’t a well-fed, complacent westerner who’s definitely seen things.
And now we have a second innocent person killed by these belligerent cowboys who didn’t have an “effing car” to get out of – nor did he constitute a threat in any way.
You’re a jerk who’s biased by his politics.