Brandon McGuire interviews Trent Horn on the Obstacles to Belief in God

Brandon McGuire is another interesting young podcaster (Daily Dose of Wisdom podcast). He comes from a Christian perspective, but no particular denomination as far as I know. Trent Horn comes from a Catholic perspective and has some interesting observations in general on the rational argument for belief. It seems to me that individual religious experience is growing, even while church attendance is plummeting. Joe Rogan talks about this a lot. Before the experience, belief in God seems illogical, but after the experience, belief in God seems completely logical and fully explanatory of the human condition. As a young person, I was a fully convinced Darwinian atheist, but one night, I opened my mind just a chink to the possibility of God and He immediately rushed in, and I have gradually grown in God-consciousness, or a personal relationship with God if you will, ever since. For me, it only took a “maybe” or a “what if?” These young men give me great hope for the future. The high-water mark of materialism was reached some time ago and now the tide has definitely turned.

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  1. “even while church attendance is plummeting.”

    I went to the local Lutheran Church for Christmas Service here in the Northern Rockies. New pastor we heard about presided. Interesting attire. Pants, Shirt rolled up to elbow and an outdoor vest. Tattoos totally covered his arms to the elbow. He looked like he was going to International House of Pancakes for breakfast.

    Christmas Carols? Yes, but sped up and played with drums and guitar. Added a verse or two with completely different music that made no sense. Music is supposed to attract younger people. Average age of the 200 or so people – at least 60. Very few young people.

    This is church belongs to one of the the “Conservative” Lutheran Church Affiliations (LCMC) – a split from the Evangelical Lutheran Church which is LGBTQXYZABC friendly.

    I got nothing out of it at all, sorry to say. Need to keep looking.

  2. Dear John – sounds about right – churches are dying all around us. Being a Urantia Book reader freed me from church attendance, but unfortunately most readers are hard-core lefties, so study groups (which is all we have) can be minefields too. Urantia groups made a major error in not forming a church early on, I think. People need other like-minded people to help bolster them spiritually. And churches need to stay the hell out of politics – feed the flock with the bread of life (the word of God) and leave it at that. Why is that so hard?

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